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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio now here's

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gene Stein with gene and Chris back on

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the power our cast we have a great guest

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this week and I was thinking Chris

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before we discuss our guest whether we

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should set up some kind of virtual green

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room for guests to hang out kind of like

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they do in The Tonight Show except it's

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a physical room yeah sure why not

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of course we can't serve drinks or other

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substances well we could serve pretend

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drinks

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germination of a fascinating concept I

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guess the question would be is how you

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would do that within the confines of

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Skype I don't know I don't know what the

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capabilities are for for Skype I I just

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love to change their ringtone it really

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is the most dorky sounding doorbell kind

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of thing I have obviously being me I

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think anybody who's used Skype knows

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what we're talking about and Skype has

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become a mainstay it's not just for

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hackers it's not just for power users

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everybody who wants to have some kind of

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direct PC or PC to smartphone or tablet

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connection they use Skype radio and TV

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stations use Skype radio and TV networks

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use Skype I mean is nothing unusual to

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hear for example well we have our

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correspondent in Ukraine from a Skype

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connection and sometimes it's limited

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motion video but sometimes it's pretty

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good TV shows are actually using Skype

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connections for some of their main

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commentators and and experts like bill

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birnes on unexplained alien files I

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think

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kind of phones in his skypes in his

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interviews you have to watch the term

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phone in though like as a double-edged

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sword you know on our other radio show

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the tech night out live we were

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discussing the pros and cons of e-books

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versus physical books and in this

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interview it's with a guy named John

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Marvell arrow who's with a publication

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called the Mack observer obviously we

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know what they cover and his feeling was

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that ebooks are best for the kind of

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books that you regard as disposable you

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know I can the old days you buy a

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paperback book you read it on the subway

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or on the bus and then you toss it so

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with an e-book it's a toss of a book but

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a book you want to preserve a book like

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stalking the herd which is over 560

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pages of amazing research in a wine

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ebook you want to buy the full printed

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book right yeah it's kind of heavy I

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just got back from the post office after

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sending my first case of books out to

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people that have been patiently waiting

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some for months to get their copies and

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I finally did get the book in from the

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publisher in don't tell you this thing

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is it's almost 2 pounds which for a book

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is a lot for a paperback so you know I

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good friend red pill junky down in

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Mexico it cost me more to send the book

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to him than the book is actually worth

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cause $21 to send it to Mexico now

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sending it here you could use what they

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call media rate right which I did which

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is three dollars and sixty five cents

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ladies and gentlemen it can take a week

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or two for the book to get to the

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customer but you have to be reasonable

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about it you know if you want to send

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Chris an extra 30 40 bucks and say okay

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send it overnight he'll consider it but

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not for a standard order otherwise he's

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going to be enriching the post office

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because the post office has that multi

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billion dollar deficit you know and

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we're not going to pay off that deficit

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with copies of stalking the hurt but

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gets back to the concept of the e-book

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versus the physical book the other

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question we have and we have some

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listeners getting on in years and don't

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talk about me here and that is what

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happens to your digital

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library if you're gone you have to will

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it it's not like a physical book where

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you just take the book and put in a

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carton and take it what do you do with a

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digital library can someone else a

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member of your family or friend to whom

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you bequeathed your estate or whatever

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can they get access what if they don't

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have the username and password will

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Amazon or Apple give it to them the

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others that's a really interesting

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question I never really thought about

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that the key here is that with an ebook

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you're not buying the book it's like

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software you're buying the license to

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copy that book onto your PC Mac

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smartphone tablet you don't physically

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own a book I mean when you buy a book a

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physical book from Barnes & Noble or any

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bookstore it's your book that will with

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it as you wish throw it out rip it up

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read it preserve it wrap it in plastic

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doesn't matter wait with an e-book what

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do you do if the person who bought the

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e-book isn't around doesn't carry a

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value oh that's a good question I really

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don't know the answer

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fascinating and maybe an interesting

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argument why if you want to preserve

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something you want to be able to refer

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to a ten years from now get a physical

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book the other argument is what the

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technology changes I'll give you an

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example of that back in the 1990s there

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was a device called the rocket ebook and

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somehow I think bill burns is involved

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in that because for a while he released

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an e-book a rocket ebook version of one

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of my science fiction novels attack of

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the rock woods and don't get me started

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on that the point being here is that if

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you bought a book with that reader

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what's it worth today and are you locked

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into this now long discontinued device

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to continue to read that book mmm yeah

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you know technology has a habit of

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becoming obsolete and you know it's like

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iTunes uh you know all these people that

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are buying

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songs you know on iTunes I had a huge

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library of music on my iTunes and then

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my computer crashed and I lost it all

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now the way it works now is there ways

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to put all that stuff in the cloud if

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you don't have a backup way and in

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theory if you bought a track from items

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using your Apple ID account you can

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download it again oh I didn't know that

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oh yeah you're not locked out well

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that's really good to know they should

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have a record of everything you bought

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you should be able to retrieve it and

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now Apple has a feature called iCloud

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and it's not just Apple Google has

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Google Play so you're not locked into

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anything but you have to consider here

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that you want to deal with a company

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that's gonna be around we know Apple's

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gonna be around we know that Google is

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gonna be around we are sure that Amazon

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is gonna be around so if you get

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involved in an ecosystem you want to

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make sure these companies are around so

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all that expensive stuff you bought the

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books the apps the music it's still

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there for us music you copy the file

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anywhere they don't have what they call

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digital rights management anymore with

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books they do unless they're in an

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industry standard format so it's not so

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easy with books they still carry that

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digital rights management albatross is

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the same thing with movies you know

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movies are not freely copied except to

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devices that you own that have licensed

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use of it mm-hmm

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the same is true with ebooks except for

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formats that are generic did you know

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but with mp3 music files originally

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Apple and other companies had DRM now

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they don't so in theory of course you

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know you can't freely make copies from

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other people's collections because of

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licenses and everything in copyrights

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but at least you can copy the files off

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to something anyway let's forget about

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the e-book versus the physical book

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except the state stalking the herd is

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available for order it's shipped copies

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are pouring into Chris's

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deep basement there in this palatial

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estate in Arizona and Oklahoma State

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we've got a great guest guy real fun guy

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who's gonna join us today for his second

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appearance on the para cast dr. Joseph

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Farrell yeah that's I'm looking forward

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to it

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Joseph is always just a mind blower when

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it comes to research and information

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about some of the lesser-known topics

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within the so-called paranormal and kind

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of exotic technology world and I'm

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really looking forward to it it's always

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fun having him and some of his recent

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books are talking about transhumanism

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mm-hmm which doesn't fall trippingly

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from the tongue transhumanism hmm a lot

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for a second visit on the para cast we

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have dr. Joseph Ferrell are joining Tina

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and Chris Joseph welcome back to the

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show thanks we were having a little bit

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of fun earlier because when we talk to

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Joseph just before the show kind of

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doing an air check he had his camera on

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on his computer so we could see him

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sitting there in his office with huge

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library and you'll notice I never have

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my camera on if the light ever came on

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on my computer I would block it with

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tape I don't want people to see me I

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don't want to destroy the mystery you

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know like radio is the theater of the

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mind and with me would be this theater

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of nightmares you see with Chris it's

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okay cuz Chris has an image you can put

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on the Indiana Jones hat and somebody's

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got the beard going he has an image a

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public image I prefer to stay anonymous

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behind my voice for better or worse your

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voice that's great on radio that's right

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and you look at the mystery of disc

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jockeys over the years we think of disc

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jockeys and talk-show hosts and we

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seldom pictured what they looked like

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because that loses the mystery except

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like George Nori's got this mustache

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that's 12 miles long I understand

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they're using it as a road block

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it's yeah tow paid down in Mexico Joseph

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before we get on the serious stuff sure

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your website Giza Death Star calm how'd

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you come up with that name I was just

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thinking about it as we got started oh

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it's actually based on the first two

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books I wrote right when I started doing

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all this whatever you want to call it

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research alternative history I don't

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know what you call it but the first

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three books that I wrote were called the

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Giza dis tire trilogy about the Great

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Pyramid and so on so that's basically

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how that web site name came up probably

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probably should be different but I'm

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stuck with it now so that's right and we

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think of all the money that GoDaddy is

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earning from you that's right so there

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we go let's go into a number of the

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topics as you've explored we also have a

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huge number of questions from our

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listeners when we warn them of your

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impending arrival the question Bank

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opened and it's an interesting thing to

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call it question Bank where we have

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questions because some of the things

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you've studied if related to bankers

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right and they're curious and premature

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deaths right okay now some people may

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not think too much about bankers and

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feel that maybe it's poetic justice but

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we don't want anybody to face an early

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death for anything so what is going on

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here yeah we've been seeing lots of

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these guys jumping off buildings off

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bridges were they about to be caught by

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the SEC or something no you know I have

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actually decided I was gonna do my

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weekly news and views partially on this

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topic I think there's a lot of things in

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play here as you guys probably know I

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believe that after World War two in the

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year 1947 to be precise President Truman

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created in effect what was a hidden

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system of Finance and and when I say

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that I'm talking about something folks

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that's very very

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from the so called black budget I'm

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talking about something that is so off

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the books that it's not even subject to

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the normal black budget

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compartmentalization and what he did was

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he was informed about the Japanese

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operation golden lilly by an envoy of

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General MacArthur who just happens to

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turn out to be ed Lansdale okay

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there's a name for you if you're the JFK

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assassination research for those who

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aren't sure tell us who he was well ed

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Lansdale

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later became one of these Pentagon CIA

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generals

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he was big in the covert operations wing

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of the Pentagon and the CIA there are

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many people that believe including the

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late Colonel Fletcher Prouty that

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believe he was actually in Dallas during

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the assassination whether that's true or

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not I don't know but ed Lansdale was a

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big world war ii and post-world war ii

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covert operations guru all right and

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Lansdale was the one who oversaw the

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torture of general yamata's driver

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japanese major I forget what his name

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was he was therefore in a position one

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of the first people in the American

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intelligence apparatus that was in the

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position to know about the extent of the

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Japanese looting of Asia and

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particularly of China and of course

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general Yamata had hidden a bunch of

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this Japanese plunder throughout the

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Philippine Islands they're still I mean

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they're still looking for some of this

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stuff and digging it up that's how fast

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it was and Lansdale discovered some of

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these sites and then flew to Tokyo to

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debrief General MacArthur and then

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General MacArthur told him well keep

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this top secret for now fly to

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Washington brief for President Truman so

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Lansdale goes to Washington and informs

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President Truman about all of this

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access loot now we have to understand

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the other side of this story

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the German looting of Europe and it's my

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belief that the Nazis and the American

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anglo-american financial apparatus began

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to set up the Bilderberg meeting

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precisely in order to coordinate after

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the post-war period how to move all this

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axis loot how to launder it and use it

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as a hidden reserve to vastly expand the

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the post-war credit supply well Lansdale

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goes to Truman on the Japanese side of

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this equation and debrief Truman and

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Truman in a cabinet meeting decides in

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1947 and this is circ at the time that

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he's setting up the the national

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security apparatus you know at the

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National Security Act and so on of 1947

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he decides to take all of this finance

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and keep it absolutely off the books it

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becomes a top secret mechanism of hidden

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finance now this is a long way around

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Harvey spire just to say what I think

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really happened here is that he set up

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the intelligence community in the

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banking business

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all right that's key because what it

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means is you cannot move this vast

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amount of loot without at some point the

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collusion of prime banks big banks like

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Barclays JP Morgan Citibank and so on

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and so forth because of that this also

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means that you will have an intelligence

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apparatus penetration of the banking

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industry now let's update it to today I

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think that it's fairly clear now that

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what really is at stake with the NSA

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electronic eavesdropping I think this is

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something that is less about

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international terrorism and more the

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ultimate insider trading mechanism and

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the reason why is that so much

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international clearing is electronically

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today that this gives the NSA the

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ability to monitor massive movements of

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capital on the international scene and

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predict with some accuracy what market

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responses are going to be that's a handy

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tool to have when you're dealing with a

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vast amount of hidden loot and plunder

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and especially a lot of gold bullion

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that was kept off the books and once we

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say that we've got a big problem I'll

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tell you what we'll solve that problem

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where maybe pose new ones in just a

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moment dr. Joseph Farrell is with us and

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we're going to talk about banker deaths

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international bankers conspiracies Nazis

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UFOs transhumanism and more as much as

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we get time for the gene and Chris

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you're in the podcast attack of the rock

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592
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we're painting a picture here with dr.

594
00:27:28,890 --> 00:27:26,650
Joseph Ferrell about an international

595
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financial conspiracy Joseph before we

596
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get on with this sure let me ask you we

597
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talk about digital currency trading what

598
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about one of these new currency systems

599
00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:38,980
like Bitcoin which is coming from some

600
00:27:44,220 --> 00:27:40,720
pretty nasty press lately because of the

601
00:27:46,770 --> 00:27:44,230
failure of certain organizations that do

602
00:27:49,710 --> 00:27:46,780
trading what about it and will and not

603
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:49,720
only that now recently suicides more

604
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suicides of people that were involved

605
00:27:58,230 --> 00:27:54,100
with Bitcoin I'll be honest look at your

606
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old 67 year-old types these are young

607
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:00,700
people right well I'll be honest with

608
00:28:05,070 --> 00:28:02,410
you guys and say that I really never

609
00:28:06,930 --> 00:28:05,080
investigated Bitcoin something in my gut

610
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:06,940
just told me to stay away from the whole

611
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:07,840
thing

612
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I suspect again that this is related to

613
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the national security structure and the

614
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finances the the suicides that we've

615
00:28:22,350 --> 00:28:20,380
been seeing here I'm of two minds thus

616
00:28:24,510 --> 00:28:22,360
far guys as to what I think might be

617
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:24,520
going on first of all there's a lot of

618
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toxic paper in the form of derivatives

619
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that were you know credit default swaps

620
00:28:34,590 --> 00:28:32,320
and so on and so forth that were created

621
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on the basis of a mathematician by the

622
00:28:39,660 --> 00:28:37,120
name of dr. David Lee from China who

623
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:39,670
came up with the formula it's called the

624
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:41,650
Gaussian copula form what kind of a

625
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:45,090
statistical formula allowed banks to

626
00:28:51,150 --> 00:28:49,510
rate the credit worthiness of some of

627
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these derivatives that's in fact what he

628
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did and thus the formula enable the

629
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creation of the vast derivatives markets

630
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in the late 1990s and early 2000s that

631
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we saw so I suspect that when the

632
00:29:07,710 --> 00:29:05,470
mortgage bubble collapsed these

633
00:29:09,930 --> 00:29:07,720
derivatives became very toxic so there's

634
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a lot of toxic paper that they're trying

635
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:11,500
to clean up essentially what we're

636
00:29:15,330 --> 00:29:13,330
looking at is kind of a mafia style

637
00:29:19,170 --> 00:29:15,340
operation that's a suspicion number one

638
00:29:21,090 --> 00:29:19,180
suspicion number two is that and this is

639
00:29:23,340 --> 00:29:21,100
where I part company with many people

640
00:29:26,190 --> 00:29:23,350
out there that are kind of trying to

641
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:26,200
create a scenario or or an

642
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:29,410
interpretation of this whole thing in

643
00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:30,850
that I don't believe

644
00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:33,880
that the central banks and bankers

645
00:29:38,940 --> 00:29:36,220
themselves are the central principle

646
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:38,950
players anymore and the reason why again

647
00:29:43,470 --> 00:29:41,440
is this hidden system of finance that

648
00:29:45,540 --> 00:29:43,480
was set up and basically turned over to

649
00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:45,550
the American intelligence apparatus I

650
00:29:51,330 --> 00:29:47,670
think what you're looking at perhaps

651
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:51,340
could be a case of the intelligence

652
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:55,510
agencies are cleaning up leaks most of

653
00:30:00,860 --> 00:29:57,970
these suicides you should note have been

654
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of people involved in the computer end

655
00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:04,450
of international banking and they may

656
00:30:09,660 --> 00:30:07,030
have discovered or inadvertently

657
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:09,670
stumbled on to some of this intelligence

658
00:30:16,530 --> 00:30:13,360
agency penetration of banking algorithms

659
00:30:19,230 --> 00:30:16,540
and trades and so on and so forth so we

660
00:30:20,910 --> 00:30:19,240
could be looking at that I do think this

661
00:30:23,010 --> 00:30:20,920
hidden system ocean ants is under a

662
00:30:24,890 --> 00:30:23,020
great deal of pressure there's been

663
00:30:27,540 --> 00:30:24,900
people that have read me

664
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:27,550
dr. ferral you're describing a financial

665
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:29,890
system that won't work well ultimately I

666
00:30:35,790 --> 00:30:31,840
know it won't work folks I'm just

667
00:30:38,340 --> 00:30:35,800
telling you what they did I'm not trying

668
00:30:39,180 --> 00:30:38,350
to make financial sense of it well with

669
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:39,190
derivatives

670
00:30:44,460 --> 00:30:41,950
I could barely explain it it was a

671
00:30:48,270 --> 00:30:44,470
financial scheme used during this bubble

672
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:48,280
for everything went downhill went to pot

673
00:30:53,370 --> 00:30:51,370
whatever at the end of 2008 bringing on

674
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:53,380
this worldwide recession or near

675
00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:56,050
depression I think one of the issues

676
00:31:01,950 --> 00:30:58,810
here is that the people who were

677
00:31:04,020 --> 00:31:01,960
responsible for all this mumbo-jumbo

678
00:31:06,570 --> 00:31:04,030
this financial chicanery

679
00:31:08,610 --> 00:31:06,580
they weren't brought to justice we're

680
00:31:10,830 --> 00:31:08,620
talking about tens of billions of

681
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:10,840
dollars trillions of dollars being taken

682
00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:13,330
out of the financial system and I just

683
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:14,950
wonder here if we're going to look at

684
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:16,810
conspiracies and because there's so much

685
00:31:21,510 --> 00:31:18,610
to cover we're not going to spend much

686
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:21,520
more time on this was the whole thing a

687
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:24,250
cover-up to hide what was really going

688
00:31:29,250 --> 00:31:26,530
on behind the scenes oh yes I absolutely

689
00:31:32,550 --> 00:31:29,260
I think so when you're talking about

690
00:31:34,380 --> 00:31:32,560
this system of finance gene I think what

691
00:31:37,860 --> 00:31:34,390
you're talking about is something so

692
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:37,870
huge that inevitably it raises the

693
00:31:44,130 --> 00:31:40,090
question of what was all of this money

694
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:44,140
used for and in my opinion going back to

695
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:44,530
present

696
00:31:49,950 --> 00:31:46,930
Truman's decision here I think there

697
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:49,960
were several factors operating to create

698
00:31:57,570 --> 00:31:52,650
this system it's based basically on

699
00:31:59,460 --> 00:31:57,580
rehypothecation gold and the creation of

700
00:32:01,920 --> 00:31:59,470
a vast amount of leverage in the

701
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:01,930
financial system that is totally off the

702
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:04,450
books all right what's all this for well

703
00:32:10,970 --> 00:32:07,600
the first thing is the Cold War context

704
00:32:14,130 --> 00:32:10,980
this became a political slush fund that

705
00:32:16,380 --> 00:32:14,140
basically enabled the covert operations

706
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:16,390
apparatus after World War two and on

707
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:19,600
into the early 1960s to two stage coos

708
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:24,730
and use this money to to force elections

709
00:32:29,850 --> 00:32:27,250
to come out the way they wanted the

710
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:29,860
famous case of 1948 in the Italian the

711
00:32:35,250 --> 00:32:32,530
elections there that was funded largely

712
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:35,260
with this covert operations money the

713
00:32:41,630 --> 00:32:37,810
second thing is we're dealing with the

714
00:32:45,450 --> 00:32:41,640
system of finance that's so huge that

715
00:32:48,210 --> 00:32:45,460
covert operations alone cannot possibly

716
00:32:51,030 --> 00:32:48,220
account for all the money in the system

717
00:32:53,670 --> 00:32:51,040
so as you say it's trillions of dollars

718
00:32:55,620 --> 00:32:53,680
and trillions of dollars over a long

719
00:32:58,500 --> 00:32:55,630
period of time from the end of World War

720
00:33:00,720 --> 00:32:58,510
two down until today so the second thing

721
00:33:03,510 --> 00:33:00,730
I think we're dealing with is we're

722
00:33:08,430 --> 00:33:03,520
looking at the funding mechanism for a

723
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:08,440
long term mega Manhattan Project and the

724
00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:11,650
project in effect to to create or

725
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:14,710
research the technologies to emulate the

726
00:33:20,910 --> 00:33:17,650
performance of UFOs in effect what we're

727
00:33:24,390 --> 00:33:20,920
looking at is a vast system of finance

728
00:33:27,150 --> 00:33:24,400
that lies behind the suppression of

729
00:33:29,250 --> 00:33:27,160
certain technologies publicly and the

730
00:33:31,380 --> 00:33:29,260
development of them privately that's

731
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:31,390
what I think is going on all right now

732
00:33:34,890 --> 00:33:33,760
the question anyone's gonna ask yours

733
00:33:37,230 --> 00:33:34,900
all right

734
00:33:39,690 --> 00:33:37,240
we're now taking a leap we're taking a

735
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:39,700
leap from looting the financial system

736
00:33:45,780 --> 00:33:43,050
right which is very believable to

737
00:33:48,290 --> 00:33:45,790
emulating the technology of UFOs which

738
00:33:51,210 --> 00:33:48,300
leaps in two different ways one assumes

739
00:33:54,060 --> 00:33:51,220
what UFOs are and what they can do and

740
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:54,070
certainly we have covered UFOs very

741
00:33:58,450 --> 00:33:55,810
heavily on the power cast for years

742
00:34:00,909 --> 00:33:58,460
there's a genuine mystery with

743
00:34:03,639 --> 00:34:00,919
solution so there Hatton project I

744
00:34:07,419 --> 00:34:03,649
understand it if we can actually get a

745
00:34:10,619 --> 00:34:07,429
hold of an actual UFO to emulate not

746
00:34:13,869 --> 00:34:10,629
just looking at it but having a craft

747
00:34:16,299 --> 00:34:13,879
from somewhere that we could look at and

748
00:34:18,730 --> 00:34:16,309
reverse engineer so is that it that we

749
00:34:20,740 --> 00:34:18,740
have a captured UFO a lot of reverse

750
00:34:24,879 --> 00:34:20,750
engineer I I don't think you actually

751
00:34:27,069 --> 00:34:24,889
have to have a craft to be to begin the

752
00:34:30,099 --> 00:34:27,079
process of reverse engineer and here's

753
00:34:32,319 --> 00:34:30,109
why if you let's assume for a moment

754
00:34:34,750 --> 00:34:32,329
that you don't have such craft in your

755
00:34:37,210 --> 00:34:34,760
possession and I'm not saying that we do

756
00:34:40,899 --> 00:34:37,220
or if we don't I'm just saying that the

757
00:34:43,829 --> 00:34:40,909
mirror reportage of UFOs and some of

758
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:43,839
their capabilities particularly those

759
00:34:50,379 --> 00:34:46,639
sightings that concern themselves with

760
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:50,389
our nuclear and thermonuclear tests with

761
00:34:54,970 --> 00:34:53,119
our nuclear weapons facilities and

762
00:34:59,220 --> 00:34:54,980
launch capabilities and so on there's

763
00:35:01,390 --> 00:34:59,230
there's been literally hundreds of UFO

764
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:01,400
sightings and reports where they have

765
00:35:06,099 --> 00:35:04,010
interfered with and in fact I in in

766
00:35:08,099 --> 00:35:06,109
covert wars and breakaway civilizations

767
00:35:12,339 --> 00:35:08,109
I talked about a number of these reports

768
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:12,349
where they will go to ICBM bases both in

769
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:13,970
the United States and the Soviet Union

770
00:35:21,099 --> 00:35:17,690
and either begin launch sequences as

771
00:35:24,460 --> 00:35:21,109
happened in the Soviet Union or they

772
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:24,470
will shut down the ICBMs in the United

773
00:35:30,549 --> 00:35:27,410
States and reprogram the targeting

774
00:35:31,630 --> 00:35:30,559
information in in ICBMs remotely in

775
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:31,640
other words there's no physical

776
00:35:36,789 --> 00:35:34,010
connection established between the UFO

777
00:35:38,890 --> 00:35:36,799
and the missiles themselves and yet

778
00:35:40,180 --> 00:35:38,900
somehow they're able to do this well if

779
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:40,190
you're in the national security

780
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,290
establishment you're looking at all of

781
00:35:45,970 --> 00:35:44,240
the performance capabilities including

782
00:35:48,130 --> 00:35:45,980
some of these things and you've got to

783
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:48,140
begin to wonder all right why the

784
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:51,170
concern with nuclear weapons and and why

785
00:35:57,579 --> 00:35:54,890
are they showing action that could be

786
00:36:00,280 --> 00:35:57,589
potentially hostile this alone I think

787
00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:00,290
gene will start you on the process of

788
00:36:04,599 --> 00:36:03,230
trying to emulate the capabilities let

789
00:36:06,339 --> 00:36:04,609
me just break in here because we have

790
00:36:08,049 --> 00:36:06,349
her through our commercial interruption

791
00:36:10,210 --> 00:36:08,059
as our listeners to know on several

792
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:10,220
occasions we've also featured Robert

793
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:11,330
Hastings

794
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:13,250
author of UFOs and nukes and he also

795
00:36:17,620 --> 00:36:15,170
covers yes ground yeah he's done

796
00:36:20,940 --> 00:36:17,630
incredible amazing research about this

797
00:36:23,140 --> 00:36:20,950
absolutely let me let me

798
00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:23,150
Robert Hastings also been one of our

799
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:25,520
better guests and these are some of the

800
00:36:29,020 --> 00:36:26,930
most compelling and maybe frightening

801
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:29,030
sightings because you wonder if they

802
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:30,050
could take control of nuclear

803
00:36:33,970 --> 00:36:32,480
installations what are they doing next I

804
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:33,980
know what we're doing next we're talking

805
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:36,530
to dr. Joseph Ferrell about a variety of

806
00:36:43,970 --> 00:36:38,810
subjects with gene and Chris you're in

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813
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and Chris we start with bankers banker

903
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suicides a secret Manhattan Project

904
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perhaps to recreate a UFO or flying

905
00:41:32,670 --> 00:41:29,890
saucer now Joseph Ferrell this project

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00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:32,680
would be irrespective of what they

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really are

908
00:41:38,370 --> 00:41:35,349
it's simply looking at what they do and

909
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trying to do the same thing in a certain

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00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:40,690
sense yes and and you mentioned earlier

911
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this this requires several assumptions

912
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:46,270
about the UFO and I definitely think

913
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:48,250
that that the evidence is there that

914
00:41:54,300 --> 00:41:50,170
that the national security establishment

915
00:41:57,599 --> 00:41:54,310
would have considered some UFO

916
00:42:00,839 --> 00:41:57,609
phenomenon to be actual nuts and bolts

917
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:00,849
technology being used by whomever all

918
00:42:06,359 --> 00:42:03,490
right and certainly I present evidence

919
00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:06,369
in my various books that they would have

920
00:42:12,359 --> 00:42:09,849
considered advanced independent human

921
00:42:14,370 --> 00:42:12,369
projects particularly the Nazis as being

922
00:42:17,550 --> 00:42:14,380
responsible for some of it but certainly

923
00:42:20,220 --> 00:42:17,560
not all of it but I also think and I

924
00:42:23,309 --> 00:42:20,230
touched upon this briefly in covert wars

925
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:23,319
and clash of civilizations so that they

926
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:25,770
would also entertain alternative

927
00:42:31,020 --> 00:42:29,050
hypotheses about other UFO phenomena

928
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:31,030
that don't appear to be quite so nuts

929
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:33,730
and bolts in nature and that they would

930
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:38,050
have attempted to go back and study

931
00:42:41,790 --> 00:42:40,240
ancient texts and so on and so forth I

932
00:42:43,980 --> 00:42:41,800
think this is ultimately where the

933
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:43,990
ancient astronauts ideas coming out of

934
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:46,170
because I think that would have been a

935
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:49,810
hypothesis entertained and pursued by

936
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:51,730
the national security establishment in

937
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:54,130
its quest to understand and to a certain

938
00:42:59,730 --> 00:42:57,130
extent reverse-engineer the UFO

939
00:43:01,680 --> 00:42:59,740
phenomena so I'm certainly not trying to

940
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:01,690
restrict it simply to the idea of nuts

941
00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:05,680
and bolts but I do think that all the

942
00:43:11,130 --> 00:43:09,190
evidence is there if you look at some of

943
00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:11,140
the projects are involved with after

944
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:13,180
World War two trying to emulate flying

945
00:43:18,940 --> 00:43:17,210
saucers trying to create antigravity and

946
00:43:22,450 --> 00:43:18,950
your statements of people involved in

947
00:43:24,190 --> 00:43:22,460
the black projects world in the 1990s

948
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:24,200
and thinking of Ben ranch in particular

949
00:43:28,990 --> 00:43:26,770
I do think it's very clear that

950
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:29,000
something happened in the national

951
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:31,970
security establishment very early on to

952
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:34,850
cause them concern over the UFO issue

953
00:43:39,940 --> 00:43:37,130
it's really a very simple step once you

954
00:43:41,830 --> 00:43:39,950
understand that this was of concern to

955
00:43:45,460 --> 00:43:41,840
them particularly UFO activity around

956
00:43:48,130 --> 00:43:45,470
nuclear sites then the response on their

957
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:48,140
part is going to be exactly the same as

958
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,960
it was during World War two when they

959
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:52,880
were made aware that the Germans you

960
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:54,770
know could be very close to getting an

961
00:43:59,170 --> 00:43:56,450
atomic bomb and they're probably working

962
00:44:02,470 --> 00:43:59,180
on well the same situation is going to

963
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:02,480
going to repeat itself only this time

964
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:06,410
they realize that in order to create a

965
00:44:12,610 --> 00:44:09,170
secret project that is going to be able

966
00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:12,620
eventually they hope to produce some

967
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:15,200
sort of technology that achieves some

968
00:44:20,050 --> 00:44:18,050
sort of limited parity with with UFO

969
00:44:22,330 --> 00:44:20,060
phenomenon that it's going to be a

970
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:22,340
long-term commitment and us are going to

971
00:44:28,420 --> 00:44:26,240
require massive huge finance so I think

972
00:44:30,220 --> 00:44:28,430
this is the background that we have to

973
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:30,230
bear in mind to this this hidden system

974
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:33,410
mr. nance and what may be in play with

975
00:44:37,870 --> 00:44:35,210
with all of these suspicious banker

976
00:44:40,780 --> 00:44:37,880
deaths all about UFOs is there any

977
00:44:42,580 --> 00:44:40,790
indication here and obviously proof has

978
00:44:45,010 --> 00:44:42,590
got to be hard or impossible to come by

979
00:44:48,220 --> 00:44:45,020
any indication that after all these

980
00:44:49,810 --> 00:44:48,230
years they've made a lick of progress ok

981
00:44:51,940 --> 00:44:49,820
lighting what they perceive you opposed

982
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:51,950
to be oh yeah I think they're I think

983
00:44:56,380 --> 00:44:53,930
there's lots of evidence that that's

984
00:44:59,530 --> 00:44:56,390
something very fishy is going on back in

985
00:45:01,690 --> 00:44:59,540
the 1950s Nick Cooke is the first one I

986
00:45:05,970 --> 00:45:01,700
think that pointed this out in his book

987
00:45:10,450 --> 00:45:05,980
the hunt for zero point that circa the

988
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:10,460
mid-1950s talk of any gravity research

989
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:12,530
in the open literature reversal

990
00:45:18,790 --> 00:45:14,720
virtually disappeared and it virtually

991
00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:18,800
disappeared almost all at once and for a

992
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:21,680
long time you heard nothing about it you

993
00:45:26,530 --> 00:45:24,110
heard little indications in the Soviet

994
00:45:27,940 --> 00:45:26,540
Union there was of course dr. Nicolai

995
00:45:31,660 --> 00:45:27,950
Kosar F

996
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:31,670
in the Soviet Union who as it turns out

997
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:33,650
you know he was denounced by profit of

998
00:45:37,809 --> 00:45:35,569
for some of his strange ideas about

999
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:37,819
torsion physics and so on and so forth

1000
00:45:45,130 --> 00:45:42,410
and that was their way of ridiculing the

1001
00:45:47,289 --> 00:45:45,140
man's ideas while they shuffled him into

1002
00:45:48,970 --> 00:45:47,299
black projects research and after the

1003
00:45:52,299 --> 00:45:48,980
collapse of the Soviet Union it turns

1004
00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:52,309
out this guy was was heavily involved in

1005
00:45:56,170 --> 00:45:54,319
some very classified research for the

1006
00:45:59,200 --> 00:45:56,180
Soviet Union right up until his death

1007
00:46:01,299 --> 00:45:59,210
it's a matter of fact in this country we

1008
00:46:04,210 --> 00:46:01,309
have the peculiar statements of people

1009
00:46:06,430 --> 00:46:04,220
like been rich for for Lockheed Martin

1010
00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:06,440
skunk works you know statements to the

1011
00:46:11,710 --> 00:46:07,849
effect that we now have the technology

1012
00:46:14,980 --> 00:46:11,720
to take e.t home and we found an error

1013
00:46:16,930 --> 00:46:14,990
in the equations and now we can take et

1014
00:46:19,569 --> 00:46:16,940
home and on and on he went toward the

1015
00:46:23,289 --> 00:46:19,579
end of his life more interestingly even

1016
00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:23,299
more recently we have the nasa scientist

1017
00:46:31,809 --> 00:46:26,510
dr. harold sunny white who has come out

1018
00:46:35,019 --> 00:46:31,819
and found that there is another error in

1019
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:35,029
the equations of the physicist Miguel

1020
00:46:41,819 --> 00:46:37,730
Elsevier the Mexican physicist who first

1021
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:41,829
published the equations for warp drive

1022
00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:45,049
make it so number let's make it so

1023
00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:49,849
number one back in 1994 in I think the

1024
00:46:53,140 --> 00:46:51,680
American Journal of physics if I'm not

1025
00:46:55,390 --> 00:46:53,150
mistaken but he didn't publish this

1026
00:46:58,480 --> 00:46:55,400
paper well the interesting thing about

1027
00:47:00,579 --> 00:46:58,490
his paper when you read it is that what

1028
00:47:03,789 --> 00:47:00,589
he's talking about would have required

1029
00:47:06,910 --> 00:47:03,799
the mass energy conversion of the planet

1030
00:47:09,579 --> 00:47:06,920
Jupiter in order to make it work but

1031
00:47:12,849 --> 00:47:09,589
Sonny white came along and said no no no

1032
00:47:14,980 --> 00:47:12,859
if you configure the geometry of things

1033
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:14,990
a certain way you don't need near that

1034
00:47:20,339 --> 00:47:16,730
amount of energy in other words what he

1035
00:47:23,380 --> 00:47:20,349
is saying is that it's within practical

1036
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:23,390
human reach and even more recently than

1037
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:26,569
that DARPA has come out the Defense

1038
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:28,880
Advanced Research Projects Agency or as

1039
00:47:34,329 --> 00:47:30,410
I like to call it the diabolically

1040
00:47:36,910 --> 00:47:34,339
apocalyptic Research Projects Agency has

1041
00:47:38,980 --> 00:47:36,920
come out and said they want the United

1042
00:47:40,750 --> 00:47:38,990
States they've set a goal for the United

1043
00:47:44,050 --> 00:47:40,760
States being warp-capable

1044
00:47:46,690 --> 00:47:44,060
within 100 years now in the Star Trek

1045
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:46,700
universe though there's a Star Trek it

1046
00:47:52,930 --> 00:47:49,010
actually happens in the mid 21st century

1047
00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:52,940
right right so you know all of this is

1048
00:47:57,220 --> 00:47:55,310
very peculiar and I'm one of those gene

1049
00:47:59,770 --> 00:47:57,230
that that tends to think that when

1050
00:48:03,160 --> 00:47:59,780
people start talking publicly about

1051
00:48:05,380 --> 00:48:03,170
things like this usually it means in in

1052
00:48:07,540 --> 00:48:05,390
the black projects world in generational

1053
00:48:09,430 --> 00:48:07,550
forgive me for 20 years they have some

1054
00:48:11,710 --> 00:48:09,440
sort of prototypical operational

1055
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:11,720
capability now I wanted to bring you

1056
00:48:14,530 --> 00:48:13,040
braise something here I'm going to

1057
00:48:17,020 --> 00:48:14,540
answer about this segment in the next

1058
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:17,030
okay we start talking about something

1059
00:48:22,810 --> 00:48:20,510
and maybe there's some guilty knowledge

1060
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:22,820
out there of something behind the scenes

1061
00:48:27,550 --> 00:48:25,010
that confirms it or relates to it so

1062
00:48:31,060 --> 00:48:27,560
right over the last few years we've

1063
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:31,070
discovered more and more so-called type

1064
00:48:36,250 --> 00:48:34,640
M or Goldilocks planets in our near

1065
00:48:38,890 --> 00:48:36,260
space like you know a couple hundred

1066
00:48:40,660 --> 00:48:38,900
light years which is not an ear but it's

1067
00:48:43,810 --> 00:48:40,670
near in terms of galactic proportions

1068
00:48:47,010 --> 00:48:43,820
and this indicates the possible presence

1069
00:48:50,740 --> 00:48:47,020
of huge numbers of planets that have

1070
00:48:52,570 --> 00:48:50,750
intelligent life maybe as we know it and

1071
00:48:55,150 --> 00:48:52,580
if you assume there are other

1072
00:48:56,770 --> 00:48:55,160
civilizations some are not quite as

1073
00:48:59,260 --> 00:48:56,780
advanced as we are assuming we are

1074
00:49:01,570 --> 00:48:59,270
advanced which may be debatable others

1075
00:49:04,030 --> 00:49:01,580
are more advanced than we are and

1076
00:49:06,850 --> 00:49:04,040
therefore have the capability of coming

1077
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:06,860
here why not why not visit your galactic

1078
00:49:13,060 --> 00:49:10,130
neighbors and we kind of still talk

1079
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:13,070
about earth-based UFOs and other stuff

1080
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:16,250
but is that just part of the normal rush

1081
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:19,010
of scientific knowledge or is there a

1082
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:23,690
purpose behind making us accept life

1083
00:49:29,770 --> 00:49:27,410
elsewhere oh I definitely yeah I

1084
00:49:32,980 --> 00:49:29,780
definitely think genes that they are in

1085
00:49:36,010 --> 00:49:32,990
a mode of controlled release of

1086
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:36,020
information to sort of prepare us for

1087
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:38,570
all of these ideas I'll tell ya let me

1088
00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:40,850
go back for a moment if I made a kind of

1089
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:43,040
buttress this hidden system it's a nice

1090
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:45,710
idea from yet another perspective the

1091
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:48,050
thing that put me on to this was the

1092
00:49:55,210 --> 00:49:50,330
bare-bones scandals that began to break

1093
00:49:57,809 --> 00:49:55,220
in 2009 and in 2009 we had the story of

1094
00:50:00,970 --> 00:49:57,819
the Japanese men that were caught at

1095
00:50:04,059 --> 00:50:00,980
Porto de Casas in Italy on their way

1096
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:04,069
into Switzerland right and the the

1097
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:06,730
Italian garden to finance a basically

1098
00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:09,170
arrested these gentlemen and discovered

1099
00:50:13,150 --> 00:50:10,910
two false bottom in their briefcase that

1100
00:50:14,980 --> 00:50:13,160
was full of bearer bonds all right to

1101
00:50:17,859 --> 00:50:14,990
the amount of one hundred and thirty

1102
00:50:20,349 --> 00:50:17,869
four and a half billion bill dollars

1103
00:50:22,059 --> 00:50:20,359
yeah billion and that's that's a drop in

1104
00:50:23,859 --> 00:50:22,069
the bucket compared to other bearer

1105
00:50:25,540 --> 00:50:23,869
bonds scandals that happened after that

1106
00:50:28,059 --> 00:50:25,550
where the amounts were in the trillions

1107
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:28,069
of dollars you know we just had a few of

1108
00:50:32,620 --> 00:50:30,770
those yeah sure you and I increase we

1109
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:32,630
never would have to worry about money

1110
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:34,640
again we wouldn't have to concern

1111
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:36,650
ourselves with whether bitcoin is an

1112
00:50:40,690 --> 00:50:38,810
alternative we've just retired but I

1113
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:40,700
don't think I could retire okay keep

1114
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:42,770
going well some of these bearer bonds

1115
00:50:47,650 --> 00:50:45,650
were in the denomination of 1 billion

1116
00:50:49,210 --> 00:50:47,660
dollars the so-called Kennedy bearer

1117
00:50:50,829 --> 00:50:49,220
bonds you can go online and find

1118
00:50:53,950 --> 00:50:50,839
pictures of this thing and they're

1119
00:50:55,900 --> 00:50:53,960
self-evidently fake but the problem is

1120
00:50:59,650 --> 00:50:55,910
is their peculiar fakes

1121
00:51:02,230 --> 00:50:59,660
because on the back of these bonds which

1122
00:51:04,690 --> 00:51:02,240
were stamped with the seal of a firm

1123
00:51:08,470 --> 00:51:04,700
called money world and money world is a

1124
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:08,480
huge Asian clearinghouse for securities

1125
00:51:14,020 --> 00:51:11,119
all right and then you had the Vatican

1126
00:51:16,569 --> 00:51:14,030
wait through their Asian News Service

1127
00:51:18,940 --> 00:51:16,579
saying that some of these bonds were so

1128
00:51:21,339 --> 00:51:18,950
good that they were indistinguishable

1129
00:51:23,050 --> 00:51:21,349
from the real thing that gets even more

1130
00:51:25,180 --> 00:51:23,060
frightening but if we after the break

1131
00:51:27,309 --> 00:51:25,190
now will be even more frightened by

1132
00:51:29,230 --> 00:51:27,319
what's to come dr. Joseph Ferrell

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joining gene and Chris you're in the

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counterfeit than carding to a private

1155
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bank having it led back at interest

1156
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forcing taxes to service debt this

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capitalism what was Jefferson correct

1158
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:31,900
when stating a central bank issuing the

1159
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public currency is a greater menace to

1160
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the liberties of the people than a

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standing army hi Ted I understand I'm

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00:52:39,630 --> 00:52:37,810
placing a free silver dollar in a book

1163
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that explains our monetary system call

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for your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time

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to understand the system call 866 to 237

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that's 800 686 to 237

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welcome back to the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

1195
00:54:15,350 --> 00:54:12,810
here's Jane Steinberg with Joseph

1196
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:15,360
Ferrell he's got a million things to say

1197
00:54:21,020 --> 00:54:18,170
about a million and a half subjects and

1198
00:54:24,170 --> 00:54:21,030
before we go on with the counterfeit

1199
00:54:25,850 --> 00:54:24,180
bearer bonds you know you've said a lot

1200
00:54:28,850 --> 00:54:25,860
of things in the first quarter of this

1201
00:54:31,580 --> 00:54:28,860
episode and the skeptics and sale tells

1202
00:54:34,580 --> 00:54:31,590
of fountain of stories there how do we

1203
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:34,590
prove any of this and if it's true why

1204
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:36,690
aren't they coming after Joseph Ferrell

1205
00:54:44,510 --> 00:54:42,000
to say a man shut up I don't know why

1206
00:54:47,450 --> 00:54:44,520
they're not coming after say hey you

1207
00:54:50,570 --> 00:54:47,460
know what I tell people is this is all

1208
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:50,580
high-octane speculation I hope it's at

1209
00:54:56,270 --> 00:54:53,690
least reasonable or argued speculation

1210
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:56,280
to get back to this hidden system is

1211
00:54:59,570 --> 00:54:58,170
financing the Barry Bonds scandals for a

1212
00:55:01,970 --> 00:54:59,580
minute here I was talking about the

1213
00:55:03,950 --> 00:55:01,980
Kennedy bearer bonds well on the back of

1214
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:03,960
this bearer bond it's very interesting

1215
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:06,450
that you have a picture of the moon you

1216
00:55:11,300 --> 00:55:08,490
have a picture of the lunar excursion

1217
00:55:12,620 --> 00:55:11,310
module from from the Apollo program and

1218
00:55:16,610 --> 00:55:12,630
you have a picture of the Space Shuttle

1219
00:55:18,380 --> 00:55:16,620
now all this suggests to me and it's

1220
00:55:23,210 --> 00:55:18,390
suggested at the time I wrote this in my

1221
00:55:25,610 --> 00:55:23,220
in my covert wars books that what they

1222
00:55:28,370 --> 00:55:25,620
did when they set up this hidden system

1223
00:55:31,130 --> 00:55:28,380
of finance in order to gain the

1224
00:55:33,890 --> 00:55:31,140
participation the secret participation

1225
00:55:36,410 --> 00:55:33,900
of the prime banks they said hey look

1226
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:36,420
alright we know that we are going to

1227
00:55:41,020 --> 00:55:38,610
need a lot of money and basically what

1228
00:55:44,030 --> 00:55:41,030
we're doing here is a form of fraud

1229
00:55:45,770 --> 00:55:44,040
alright and we thank you for your

1230
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:45,780
participation and what we're going to do

1231
00:55:50,420 --> 00:55:48,090
is we're gonna make you stakeholders in

1232
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:50,430
whatever it is that we find in outer

1233
00:55:55,390 --> 00:55:52,170
space so in other words what they did

1234
00:55:58,310 --> 00:55:55,400
was when they set up this system they

1235
00:56:00,530 --> 00:55:58,320
collateralized space and whatever might

1236
00:56:03,140 --> 00:56:00,540
be their they collateralized their

1237
00:56:05,330 --> 00:56:03,150
resources now the reason I think that's

1238
00:56:07,220 --> 00:56:05,340
interesting is within a couple years

1239
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:07,230
after I published all of this this

1240
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:09,090
argument and speculation

1241
00:56:14,510 --> 00:56:11,130
all of a sudden we see the spate of

1242
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:14,520
stories about mining asteroids going to

1243
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:16,530
the moon mining the moon going on to

1244
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:18,450
Mars mining mercs so in other words

1245
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:21,090
they're telling you in effect they're

1246
00:56:26,990 --> 00:56:23,970
admitting that ya space has been

1247
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:27,000
collateralized and all of this effort to

1248
00:56:32,690 --> 00:56:29,330
privatise space and get out there and

1249
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:32,700
make use of the resources in space which

1250
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:34,890
you know there are just gobs of

1251
00:56:39,980 --> 00:56:37,770
resources out there in the trillions and

1252
00:56:41,930 --> 00:56:39,990
incidentally quadrillions of dollars so

1253
00:56:43,970 --> 00:56:41,940
you know here's the system that's

1254
00:56:45,710 --> 00:56:43,980
propping up your derivatives that are in

1255
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:45,720
the quadrillions of dollars no one has

1256
00:56:51,020 --> 00:56:49,410
pointed out that the derivatives are in

1257
00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:51,030
the quadrillions of dollars in other

1258
00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:52,710
words they exceed the total gross

1259
00:56:57,860 --> 00:56:54,420
domestic product of the entire planet

1260
00:57:00,050 --> 00:56:57,870
now you cannot have a system like that

1261
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:00,060
continue to function without collapsing

1262
00:57:05,180 --> 00:57:02,640
unless there's something backing it up

1263
00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:05,190
and I think that we're being told in

1264
00:57:09,170 --> 00:57:07,710
effect what that is it's space it's just

1265
00:57:11,870 --> 00:57:09,180
the people aren't connecting the dots

1266
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:11,880
between all of this just just the amount

1267
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:15,410
of ilium 3 the bone is just worth

1268
00:57:20,660 --> 00:57:18,450
ungodly amounts of money yeah exactly

1269
00:57:23,390 --> 00:57:20,670
now these public space programs from

1270
00:57:25,610 --> 00:57:23,400
private industries like SpaceX now

1271
00:57:27,140 --> 00:57:25,620
they're pretty primitive as things go

1272
00:57:30,740 --> 00:57:27,150
they could barely launch a satellite

1273
00:57:33,740 --> 00:57:30,750
into orbit but is this a cover-up or is

1274
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:33,750
this basically making us accept the fact

1275
00:57:37,550 --> 00:57:36,090
that there's a lot going on behind the

1276
00:57:41,150 --> 00:57:37,560
scenes with regard to space exploration

1277
00:57:43,850 --> 00:57:41,160
and don't be so sad that we sort of gave

1278
00:57:45,620 --> 00:57:43,860
it up after the moon landings right

1279
00:57:48,350 --> 00:57:45,630
exactly I think it's definitely the

1280
00:57:51,230 --> 00:57:48,360
latter gene because again we're looking

1281
00:57:53,780 --> 00:57:51,240
at a system that at the end of World War

1282
00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:53,790
two when you factor in the Nazi loot the

1283
00:57:59,570 --> 00:57:56,910
Japanese loot this is in the hundreds of

1284
00:58:03,890 --> 00:57:59,580
millions if not billions of dollars at

1285
00:58:07,370 --> 00:58:03,900
that time in 1945 dollars alright so

1286
00:58:10,820 --> 00:58:07,380
over time this money in my opinion would

1287
00:58:12,830 --> 00:58:10,830
buy you a lot of prototypical secret

1288
00:58:15,170 --> 00:58:12,840
technology we're seeing some of it come

1289
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:15,180
out I think 3d printing and so on and so

1290
00:58:19,700 --> 00:58:17,250
forth I think you know 3d printing has

1291
00:58:21,500 --> 00:58:19,710
been around for a long time the printing

1292
00:58:22,769 --> 00:58:21,510
is almost the first step for the

1293
00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:22,779
replicator

1294
00:58:27,329 --> 00:58:25,089
exactly it's it's the first step in the

1295
00:58:29,999 --> 00:58:27,339
in the technology tree to the Star Trek

1296
00:58:32,729 --> 00:58:30,009
replicator very interesting here

1297
00:58:35,819 --> 00:58:32,739
Star Trek itself right look at how many

1298
00:58:39,209 --> 00:58:35,829
inventions came out of Star Trek like

1299
00:58:41,370 --> 00:58:39,219
the 1960s this star attack mobile phone

1300
00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:41,380
of the 90s right was a Star Trek

1301
00:58:45,839 --> 00:58:43,599
communicator right we look at the

1302
00:58:48,839 --> 00:58:45,849
tablets in Star Trek next generation you

1303
00:58:51,539 --> 00:58:48,849
pick up your iPad and say hmm exactly

1304
00:58:54,929 --> 00:58:51,549
okay we look at warp drive we look at

1305
00:58:57,509 --> 00:58:54,939
even matter transmission the transporter

1306
00:58:59,849 --> 00:58:57,519
and we're working on that stuff yes we

1307
00:59:02,880 --> 00:58:59,859
are and and again to get back to your

1308
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:02,890
idea are we are we being subjected to a

1309
00:59:06,539 --> 00:59:04,569
controlled release of information I

1310
00:59:08,819 --> 00:59:06,549
think so you know Gene Roddenberry was

1311
00:59:11,099 --> 00:59:08,829
connected to some of these people so how

1312
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:11,109
so well he had the he had the

1313
00:59:15,479 --> 00:59:13,689
connections within this he had you know

1314
00:59:19,019 --> 00:59:15,489
put kamar and people like that that were

1315
00:59:22,049 --> 00:59:19,029
advisors I think he had some sort of

1316
00:59:24,599 --> 00:59:22,059
inside track or at least maybe had heard

1317
00:59:27,659 --> 00:59:24,609
things and decided to incorporate them

1318
00:59:29,729 --> 00:59:27,669
in this science fiction but again you're

1319
00:59:31,529 --> 00:59:29,739
correct all of these things one is a

1320
00:59:33,329 --> 00:59:31,539
coincidence to makes you raise your

1321
00:59:36,179 --> 00:59:33,339
eyebrows but more than two you know

1322
00:59:38,519 --> 00:59:36,189
you're you're starting to push the

1323
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:38,529
actuaries in Las Vegas a little bit

1324
00:59:42,719 --> 00:59:40,890
there so yeah I think we're looking at

1325
00:59:44,699 --> 00:59:42,729
controlled release of information

1326
00:59:46,499 --> 00:59:44,709
preparing us for things you know and

1327
00:59:48,479 --> 00:59:46,509
then but then the other thing we got to

1328
00:59:50,370 --> 00:59:48,489
remember in this connection Jean is the

1329
00:59:51,779 --> 00:59:50,380
Chelyabinsk meteor you know that's

1330
00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:51,789
another thing I find endlessly

1331
00:59:58,380 --> 00:59:55,569
fascinating the the interesting thing

1332
01:00:00,899 --> 00:59:58,390
about the chairman's meteor is a month

1333
01:00:03,899 --> 01:00:00,909
before it happened then President Dmitry

1334
01:00:06,539 --> 01:00:03,909
Medvedev of Russia came out and said you

1335
01:00:11,870 --> 01:00:06,549
know Russia needs to build an asteroid

1336
01:00:15,059 --> 01:00:11,880
defense system I wonder why I wonder why

1337
01:00:17,009 --> 01:00:15,069
exactly and then bang a month later we

1338
01:00:18,419 --> 01:00:17,019
get the Chinaman's meteor and it has all

1339
01:00:21,989 --> 01:00:18,429
the appearance of someone you know

1340
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:21,999
either the Russians shot it down but you

1341
01:00:28,229 --> 01:00:24,400
know the real question it raises wasn't

1342
01:00:30,269 --> 01:00:28,239
that mighty convenient so did someone

1343
01:00:33,449 --> 01:00:30,279
have the technology to move the meteor

1344
01:00:35,099 --> 01:00:33,459
towards Russia and did the Russians but

1345
01:00:38,249 --> 01:00:35,109
Jesus shoot it down

1346
01:00:40,259 --> 01:00:38,259
we go but yeah I think we're looking at

1347
01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:40,269
definitely the controlled release of

1348
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:42,430
information they're getting us ready for

1349
01:00:49,469 --> 01:00:47,410
something and and I think probably these

1350
01:00:50,849 --> 01:00:49,479
banksters suicides and so on and so

1351
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forth they're cleaning house with the

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toxic paper but they may also be

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cleaning house against people that may

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have discovered something that would

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endanger this whole national security

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apparatus financial system electronic

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clearing and so on and so forth okay so

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01:01:10,349 --> 01:01:07,539
what is to come

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01:01:12,539 --> 01:01:10,359
just Farrell is this something that's

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01:01:15,209 --> 01:01:12,549
good for us is it something that means

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01:01:17,239 --> 01:01:15,219
that corporations take over it's all

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01:01:21,029 --> 01:01:17,249
about fascism what's going to happen

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01:01:23,729 --> 01:01:21,039
well I do think that the

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collateralization of space means one

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01:01:29,309 --> 01:01:27,180
inevitable thing whenever you have

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01:01:30,989 --> 01:01:29,319
maritime interest and let's look at

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space in that fashion because

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essentially what we're looking at is the

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ocean of space and and trade and

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01:01:42,569 --> 01:01:39,309
commerce being connected and conducted

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via that mechanism and medium so when

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01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:44,079
they start talking about mining

1373
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:47,170
asteroids and mining the moon the hidden

1374
01:01:52,709 --> 01:01:50,650
text that they're talking about is not

1375
01:01:54,989 --> 01:01:52,719
simply the militarization of space

1376
01:01:57,779 --> 01:01:54,999
that's already happened but they're

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01:01:59,549 --> 01:01:57,789
already they're talking subtly about the

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weaponization of space in other words

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01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:01,329
actually putting weapons up there

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oh that's all we need yeah that's all we

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recently just to give you kind of an

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idea of the gargantuan scale that

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they're talking I've logged on my

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website recently about a Japanese

1385
01:02:21,180 --> 01:02:18,309
architectural firm that proposed the

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idea of putting solar collection panels

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around the entire equator of the moon

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and collecting energy and beaming it to

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earth in the form of microwaves now I

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don't know about you but to collect

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01:02:40,979 --> 01:02:37,420
microwave power of that scale would

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basically toast an area of the earth

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where you would set up

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to do that I know that because in in the

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nineteen late 1950s and early 1960s the

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US Air Force proposed a similar scheme

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of putting satellites up in space to

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collect solar power and beam it to the

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earth in the form of microwaves the only

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problem was in their study that the

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collection antennas would be so

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concentrated that it would crisp an area

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of about a hundred and forty five square

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kilometers where absolutely nothing

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could live all right all right we're

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gonna have to do the break here but I

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just want to comment here and that is we

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are already in a sea of microwave

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radiation yes with Wi-Fi and everything

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our brains are being fried why do we

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want to just fry the planet dr. Joseph

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Ferrell does not want to fry the planet

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suggest that my brain has been fried for

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many years

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I won't speak of dr. Joseph Ferrell oh

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they suggested me - all right so -

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associated yep well you know you were

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01:08:34,559 --> 01:08:31,690
talking about microwave collection of

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energy from space now I recall hearing

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uh she's probably 10 or 12 years ago

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01:08:43,410 --> 01:08:40,740
Tom Bearden rather a claim that the

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electrical grid here in the United

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States has a lot of excess energy that's

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01:08:50,519 --> 01:08:48,430
not actually used yes in other words

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01:08:53,190 --> 01:08:50,529
when you create electricity and it goes

1520
01:08:55,380 --> 01:08:53,200
out there if you don't use it you still

1521
01:08:58,650 --> 01:08:55,390
have excess electricity and what he

1522
01:09:01,530 --> 01:08:58,660
suggested is that we're microwaving that

1523
01:09:06,059 --> 01:09:01,540
excess energy grid electricity and

1524
01:09:07,890 --> 01:09:06,069
energy to aid some sort of operations on

1525
01:09:10,530 --> 01:09:07,900
the moon that were actually microwaving

1526
01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:10,540
a radiation to the moon let me just ask

1527
01:09:15,300 --> 01:09:12,400
something here to kind of freshen that

1528
01:09:18,870 --> 01:09:15,310
question Chris does that imply therefore

1529
01:09:22,140 --> 01:09:18,880
that not only are we harvesting money

1530
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:22,150
and secret heating that away we're also

1531
01:09:27,480 --> 01:09:24,730
harvesting energy and using some of that

1532
01:09:30,030 --> 01:09:27,490
excess energy for these strange purposes

1533
01:09:32,700 --> 01:09:30,040
oh yeah it's it's it's excessive it it

1534
01:09:35,190 --> 01:09:32,710
has to be used you can't store it it'll

1535
01:09:38,190 --> 01:09:35,200
just you just ground it out yes so why

1536
01:09:39,930 --> 01:09:38,200
not go ahead and according to Bearden he

1537
01:09:42,480 --> 01:09:39,940
thinks that they're actually on the moon

1538
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:42,490
that they are they do have operations

1539
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:45,600
already ongoing and that this microwave

1540
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:48,130
conversion into microwave energy from

1541
01:09:52,650 --> 01:09:50,170
our from our excess energy in the grid

1542
01:09:53,849 --> 01:09:52,660
is actually helping that process up

1543
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:53,859
there have you heard anything like that

1544
01:09:58,140 --> 01:09:56,080
Joseph no I haven't heard anything like

1545
01:10:00,300 --> 01:09:58,150
that but it wouldn't surprise me again

1546
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:00,310
if if we're talking about a hidden

1547
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:02,770
system of Finance of this vast scale

1548
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:04,810
like I indicated earlier it'll buy you a

1549
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:06,850
lot of secret technology it will also

1550
01:10:11,500 --> 01:10:08,130
buy you

1551
01:10:14,209 --> 01:10:11,510
lot of ability to suppress the open

1552
01:10:16,430 --> 01:10:14,219
discussion and development of some of

1553
01:10:18,140 --> 01:10:16,440
these technologies which ultimately I

1554
01:10:20,209 --> 01:10:18,150
think are going to come out I think they

1555
01:10:22,580 --> 01:10:20,219
are coming out as as we discussed in

1556
01:10:25,459 --> 01:10:22,590
previous segments so it wasn't surprised

1557
01:10:27,470 --> 01:10:25,469
that they may have a secret capability

1558
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:27,480
to get humans up there and back again

1559
01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:30,690
before lunch so to speak all right but

1560
01:10:36,860 --> 01:10:33,510
the the problem with the Japanese plan

1561
01:10:38,510 --> 01:10:36,870
was to do this on that kind of scale the

1562
01:10:40,430 --> 01:10:38,520
first thing that popped into my mind

1563
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:40,440
they're not talking about a power plan

1564
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:42,330
at all they're talking about a weapon

1565
01:10:46,610 --> 01:10:43,170
all right

1566
01:10:48,050 --> 01:10:46,620
literally less than I think it was four

1567
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:48,060
days three days somewhere in that

1568
01:10:51,919 --> 01:10:49,920
timeframe after the Japanese

1569
01:10:53,540 --> 01:10:51,929
architectural firm had made this little

1570
01:10:56,570 --> 01:10:53,550
announcement in other words we have a

1571
01:10:59,180 --> 01:10:56,580
serious architectural firm in in Tokyo

1572
01:11:03,140 --> 01:10:59,190
drawing up the actual plane

1573
01:11:05,540 --> 01:11:03,150
to do this all right so after they they

1574
01:11:07,850 --> 01:11:05,550
came out with this the Chinese and I

1575
01:11:12,140 --> 01:11:07,860
blogged about this the Chinese within

1576
01:11:15,050 --> 01:11:12,150
days came out with a plan to turn the

1577
01:11:18,590 --> 01:11:15,060
moon in their words into a quote Death

1578
01:11:20,270 --> 01:11:18,600
Star unquote now the question I have to

1579
01:11:23,390 --> 01:11:20,280
ask is all right

1580
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:23,400
the Chinese read the Japanese and read

1581
01:11:28,430 --> 01:11:26,310
them correctly in my opinion so the real

1582
01:11:33,020 --> 01:11:28,440
question is why do we need to turn the

1583
01:11:35,899 --> 01:11:33,030
whole friggin moon into a weapon is it

1584
01:11:38,660 --> 01:11:35,909
for threats against earth well there's

1585
01:11:41,930 --> 01:11:38,670
nobody down here that you know would I

1586
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:41,940
think want to crisp the planet so it has

1587
01:11:48,770 --> 01:11:46,770
to be some either real external threat

1588
01:11:51,649 --> 01:11:48,780
or they want us to think there's a real

1589
01:11:54,379 --> 01:11:51,659
external threat either way the goals the

1590
01:11:56,930 --> 01:11:54,389
same they want to weaponize space that's

1591
01:11:58,729 --> 01:11:56,940
the agenda and you know we go all the

1592
01:12:02,060 --> 01:11:58,739
way back to Carol rosin and what she

1593
01:12:04,879 --> 01:12:02,070
said about dr. Verner from brown that

1594
01:12:06,649 --> 01:12:04,889
this was this was the ultimate game that

1595
01:12:10,010 --> 01:12:06,659
they were after putting weapons in space

1596
01:12:12,500 --> 01:12:10,020
right so you know I go back again to

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01:12:13,970 --> 01:12:12,510
this idea of the collateralization space

1598
01:12:17,660 --> 01:12:13,980
if you'd collateralize it if you

1599
01:12:21,260 --> 01:12:17,670
commercialize it if space is

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01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:21,270
dependent now on the International

1601
01:12:26,209 --> 01:12:23,280
cleric and you know let's look at

1602
01:12:29,780 --> 01:12:26,219
another fact here the reserve currency

1603
01:12:32,209 --> 01:12:29,790
status of the US dollar just like all

1604
01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:32,219
reserve currencies previously in history

1605
01:12:39,169 --> 01:12:35,760
have been based on naval powers Venice

1606
01:12:42,770 --> 01:12:39,179
Portugal Spain France England and so on

1607
01:12:45,669 --> 01:12:42,780
well now the the reserve currency of the

1608
01:12:48,169 --> 01:12:45,679
world is the dollar and because so much

1609
01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:48,179
international clearing is done

1610
01:12:54,169 --> 01:12:50,880
electronically this means space becomes

1611
01:12:56,030 --> 01:12:54,179
the key to international clearing and to

1612
01:12:59,060 --> 01:12:56,040
the reserve status of the dollar so

1613
01:13:01,280 --> 01:12:59,070
that's yet another reason not just to

1614
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:01,290
militarize space but if you're

1615
01:13:07,220 --> 01:13:03,330
commercializing it it's another reason

1616
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:07,230
to webinar space so all of this is tied

1617
01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:09,210
together yes but also creates the

1618
01:13:15,500 --> 01:13:12,239
complication then of other countries

1619
01:13:17,570 --> 01:13:15,510
also wanting the weaponized space bingo

1620
01:13:19,850 --> 01:13:17,580
and suddenly we've got potential

1621
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:19,860
conflicts that maybe we don't want yes

1622
01:13:24,050 --> 01:13:20,730
exactly

1623
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:24,060
I think ultimately when Medina came out

1624
01:13:27,919 --> 01:13:26,370
with his statement about an asteroid

1625
01:13:31,250 --> 01:13:27,929
defense system it's very interesting

1626
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:31,260
what he said he said firstly that you

1627
01:13:37,310 --> 01:13:33,810
know Russia could do this on its own but

1628
01:13:40,010 --> 01:13:37,320
it would only be a protection for Russia

1629
01:13:42,740 --> 01:13:40,020
and that what was needed was some sort

1630
01:13:45,020 --> 01:13:42,750
of international system of asteroid

1631
01:13:47,660 --> 01:13:45,030
defense and monitoring and so on and so

1632
01:13:50,689 --> 01:13:47,670
forth so in other words even Russia is

1633
01:13:53,090 --> 01:13:50,699
in on this this game of trying to

1634
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:53,100
internationalize space commercialize it

1635
01:13:58,270 --> 01:13:55,530
and weaponized we're gonna see what how

1636
01:14:01,280 --> 01:13:58,280
they do this so now of course with

1637
01:14:03,229 --> 01:14:01,290
Vladimir doing all sorts of irrational

1638
01:14:06,650 --> 01:14:03,239
things you wonder where he's gonna take

1639
01:14:08,570 --> 01:14:06,660
it Chris we were peppered with the ocean

1640
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:08,580
salt and pepper real good questions I

1641
01:14:12,410 --> 01:14:10,290
think dr. ferral is really gonna enjoy

1642
01:14:13,850 --> 01:14:12,420
some of these sure the first one I want

1643
01:14:17,180 --> 01:14:13,860
to ask you about kind of goes back to

1644
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:17,190
that early 50s time period that you kind

1645
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:19,290
of alluded to when we were talking about

1646
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:21,330
Ed Lansdale and this comes from someone

1647
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:23,250
I guess that some months back sent you

1648
01:14:28,490 --> 01:14:26,010
an article written by major Keyhoe for

1649
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:28,500
the December 1946 issue of true magazine

1650
01:14:33,380 --> 01:14:31,110
in which he describes UAV technology

1651
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:33,390
then coming into use now this was

1652
01:14:37,820 --> 01:14:35,250
published three years before his first

1653
01:14:40,370 --> 01:14:37,830
UFO book the flying saucers are real he

1654
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:40,380
goes on to say here that Kyo would later

1655
01:14:45,230 --> 01:14:43,050
deny any knowledge of remote control

1656
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:45,240
aircraft technology and he would

1657
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:47,250
discount entirely the suggestion that

1658
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:49,770
some UFOs could be man-made remotely

1659
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:51,930
piloted aircraft what he says given this

1660
01:14:56,180 --> 01:14:53,850
fact what do you make of tee towns and

1661
01:14:58,460 --> 01:14:56,190
Browns involvement with NICAP and what

1662
01:15:00,920 --> 01:14:58,470
might this imply about nightcaps few

1663
01:15:02,900 --> 01:15:00,930
purpose yep let me just frame this here

1664
01:15:04,610 --> 01:15:02,910
nine cat the national investigations

1665
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:04,620
committee on aerial phenomena which was

1666
01:15:08,150 --> 01:15:06,480
the organization that Kyo became

1667
01:15:09,980 --> 01:15:08,160
director of before he was actually owl

1668
01:15:13,910 --> 01:15:09,990
stood in the late 60s of various reasons

1669
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:13,920
was founded by this antigravity guy name

1670
01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:16,170
of T Townsend Brown now we have about a

1671
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:17,490
minute left for the segment will

1672
01:15:21,530 --> 01:15:19,650
continue in the next segment but with

1673
01:15:24,500 --> 01:15:21,540
this background Joseph can you frame it

1674
01:15:27,740 --> 01:15:24,510
further well yeah my my gifts right

1675
01:15:32,090 --> 01:15:27,750
frankly is that Kehoe and and the whole

1676
01:15:35,210 --> 01:15:32,100
night cap episode were created to in

1677
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:35,220
part to ridicule publicly Thomas

1678
01:15:39,740 --> 01:15:37,770
Townsend Brown I go into reasons for

1679
01:15:41,990 --> 01:15:39,750
that in in covert wars and Clash of

1680
01:15:45,550 --> 01:15:42,000
Civilizations I think Thomas Townsend

1681
01:15:50,570 --> 01:15:45,560
Brown had deep connections to this this

1682
01:15:53,060 --> 01:15:50,580
deep stage or covert development of

1683
01:15:55,700 --> 01:15:53,070
technologies I think he had very very

1684
01:15:58,100 --> 01:15:55,710
deep connections and in fact I document

1685
01:16:01,100 --> 01:15:58,110
in in that book covert wars and clash of

1686
01:16:03,980 --> 01:16:01,110
civilizations the fact that he may have

1687
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:03,990
actually at some point worked for

1688
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:06,450
Lockheed skunkworks been acquainted with

1689
01:16:11,150 --> 01:16:08,490
been rich and so on and so forth you

1690
01:16:13,820 --> 01:16:11,160
can't be in that world and not know

1691
01:16:16,190 --> 01:16:13,830
these people so you know that adds

1692
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:16,200
another twist to rich estate you know we

1693
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found an error in the equations now we

1694
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:21,240
can take et home before we take et home

1695
01:16:27,410 --> 01:16:24,210
lessons already here we have dr. Joseph

1696
01:16:29,270 --> 01:16:27,420
Ferrell exploring many unusual mysteries

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[Music]

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01:21:01,520 --> 01:20:59,550
hi my name is Richard Dolan you're

1798
01:21:09,169 --> 01:21:01,530
listening to the Peres Cass

1799
01:21:13,739 --> 01:21:12,029
dr. Joseph Ferrell joining us on the

1800
01:21:16,319 --> 01:21:13,749
podcast this week with gene and Chris

1801
01:21:18,270 --> 01:21:16,329
and we're coming off the shoptalk

1802
01:21:20,189 --> 01:21:18,280
episode last week which was so much fun

1803
01:21:23,279 --> 01:21:20,199
we're now back in the swing of things

1804
01:21:26,549 --> 01:21:23,289
okay Joseph any more comments about the

1805
01:21:29,370 --> 01:21:26,559
nightcap anti-gravity Tetons and bound

1806
01:21:32,100 --> 01:21:29,380
connection before we go on well yeah the

1807
01:21:34,949 --> 01:21:32,110
other thing I wanted to mention was that

1808
01:21:37,199 --> 01:21:34,959
in my opinion and there would be those

1809
01:21:38,489 --> 01:21:37,209
who would disagree with me and I can

1810
01:21:40,919 --> 01:21:38,499
understand the reasons for their

1811
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:40,929
disagreements but in my opinion I think

1812
01:21:46,649 --> 01:21:45,130
part of the post-war ufology effort at

1813
01:21:49,290 --> 01:21:46,659
least on the part of the national

1814
01:21:52,979 --> 01:21:49,300
security apparatus was to deflect

1815
01:21:56,989 --> 01:21:52,989
attention away from the covert

1816
01:21:59,339 --> 01:21:56,999
development of technologies to a

1817
01:22:02,370 --> 01:21:59,349
extraterrestrial explanation we you know

1818
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:02,380
the familiar story of the u2 often being

1819
01:22:08,129 --> 01:22:04,449
cited by people thinking that it was

1820
01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:08,139
some sort of UFO and in fact the the CIA

1821
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:11,440
did kind of push that I do think that

1822
01:22:17,580 --> 01:22:13,840
that effort was retained for another

1823
01:22:20,759 --> 01:22:17,590
reason in that in my books I've taken

1824
01:22:22,919 --> 01:22:20,769
great pains to to document that the

1825
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:22,929
Nazis during World War two and after

1826
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:25,690
we're pursuing some of these

1827
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:28,090
prototypical technologies on their own

1828
01:22:32,069 --> 01:22:30,610
so I think that's the other part of the

1829
01:22:36,359 --> 01:22:32,079
story they didn't want people looking

1830
01:22:39,180 --> 01:22:36,369
too closely at because of the the heavy

1831
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:39,190
preponderance of German scientists in

1832
01:22:41,549 --> 01:22:41,170
their own space program so that's the

1833
01:22:44,009 --> 01:22:41,559
other thing

1834
01:22:45,870 --> 01:22:44,019
now remember starting with the book

1835
01:22:48,689 --> 01:22:45,880
flying saucers from outer space major

1836
01:22:51,449 --> 01:22:48,699
Keough pushed skyward right there out

1837
01:22:54,509 --> 01:22:51,459
there it's et right so you're suggesting

1838
01:22:57,029 --> 01:22:54,519
here that at least a portion of it was

1839
01:22:59,160 --> 01:22:57,039
really earth-based technology test

1840
01:23:01,080 --> 01:22:59,170
weapons testing raft that kind of yes

1841
01:23:04,140 --> 01:23:01,090
I've always thought that I've always

1842
01:23:05,549 --> 01:23:04,150
thought that the the Nazi angle of

1843
01:23:08,250 --> 01:23:05,559
development of some of this technology

1844
01:23:12,270 --> 01:23:08,260
was being given rather short shrift and

1845
01:23:14,549 --> 01:23:12,280
in the ethology community or that the

1846
01:23:17,509 --> 01:23:14,559
ufology community was buying stories

1847
01:23:20,910 --> 01:23:17,519
that were just on the face of it absurd

1848
01:23:22,170 --> 01:23:20,920
you know the stories of Nazis actually

1849
01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:22,180
having developed work

1850
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:25,120
flying saucer field propulsion saucers

1851
01:23:29,130 --> 01:23:27,130
during the war and launched secret

1852
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:29,140
expeditions to the moon and mars and on

1853
01:23:33,300 --> 01:23:30,490
and on we could go i've never bought

1854
01:23:35,250 --> 01:23:33,310
into that either i think the truth of

1855
01:23:38,310 --> 01:23:35,260
the matter lies somewhere in between the

1856
01:23:40,020 --> 01:23:38,320
extremes that they were developing some

1857
01:23:42,570 --> 01:23:40,030
prototypical technology but it was

1858
01:23:44,550 --> 01:23:42,580
nowhere near what they were seeing in

1859
01:23:46,620 --> 01:23:44,560
terms of the performance capabilities of

1860
01:23:50,790 --> 01:23:46,630
UFOs so this doesn't deny the

1861
01:23:53,180 --> 01:23:50,800
possibility of UFOs from somewhere where

1862
01:23:56,460 --> 01:23:53,190
only that we have contributed

1863
01:23:59,400 --> 01:23:56,470
collectively the collective we towards a

1864
01:24:01,980 --> 01:23:59,410
lot of that mystery yeah we're looking

1865
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:01,990
in my opinion Jean and at two things

1866
01:24:06,540 --> 01:24:04,480
putting ourselves in the shoes of the

1867
01:24:09,870 --> 01:24:06,550
national security apparatus after World

1868
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:09,880
War two I think first of all it becomes

1869
01:24:14,220 --> 01:24:12,250
immediately clear Davitt that they are

1870
01:24:16,740 --> 01:24:14,230
looking at some sort of post-war

1871
01:24:18,150 --> 01:24:16,750
independent german project or nazi

1872
01:24:20,490 --> 01:24:18,160
project whatever you wish to call it

1873
01:24:21,150 --> 01:24:20,500
that's continuing to research some of

1874
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:21,160
this stuff

1875
01:24:27,690 --> 01:24:23,770
that's been the burden of a lot of my

1876
01:24:29,700 --> 01:24:27,700
research on the Nazi books but as I

1877
01:24:33,660 --> 01:24:29,710
pointed out in in covert wars and clash

1878
01:24:35,610 --> 01:24:33,670
of civilizations you have a man in the

1879
01:24:38,070 --> 01:24:35,620
American national intelligence apparatus

1880
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:38,080
by the name of Alfred Laden he's a

1881
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:41,170
German American he's in contact with

1882
01:24:45,990 --> 01:24:43,690
these Nazis at wright-patterson Air Base

1883
01:24:46,710 --> 01:24:46,000
people like Walter lippisch and so on

1884
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:46,720
and so forth

1885
01:24:53,970 --> 01:24:51,130
he is the one that most people think was

1886
01:24:56,490 --> 01:24:53,980
the inspiration behind some of the very

1887
01:24:58,820 --> 01:24:56,500
early post Roswell US Air Force

1888
01:25:01,380 --> 01:24:58,830
intelligence collection memoranda

1889
01:25:03,900 --> 01:25:01,390
including the famous Shogun document

1890
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:03,910
alright and in that document in its

1891
01:25:10,170 --> 01:25:06,730
authentic version it is very clearly

1892
01:25:11,970 --> 01:25:10,180
pointing the finger of suspicion at Nazi

1893
01:25:13,470 --> 01:25:11,980
developments during World War two and

1894
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:13,480
it's very clear if you read the

1895
01:25:19,230 --> 01:25:15,850
memorandum carefully as I try and do in

1896
01:25:22,020 --> 01:25:19,240
in my book Roswell in the Reich if you

1897
01:25:25,290 --> 01:25:22,030
read the memorandum it's also very clear

1898
01:25:27,780 --> 01:25:25,300
that the US Air Force suspects that

1899
01:25:29,730 --> 01:25:27,790
there's some independent post-war Nazi

1900
01:25:33,570 --> 01:25:29,740
project going on that they don't know

1901
01:25:36,050 --> 01:25:33,580
about but Lading is also the one who on

1902
01:25:39,530 --> 01:25:36,060
the basis of the sheer number

1903
01:25:43,370 --> 01:25:39,540
of UFO reports comes to the conclusion

1904
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:43,380
that this is beyond the production

1905
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:47,730
capacity of any post or independent Nazi

1906
01:25:52,970 --> 01:25:50,010
project or anyone elses for that matter

1907
01:25:55,610 --> 01:25:52,980
and therefore there has to be in

1908
01:25:59,870 --> 01:25:55,620
addition to that secret terrestrial

1909
01:26:02,030 --> 01:25:59,880
origin for UFOs there has to be some

1910
01:26:04,270 --> 01:26:02,040
other source so in other words the

1911
01:26:07,610 --> 01:26:04,280
national security apparatus is

1912
01:26:10,460 --> 01:26:07,620
maintaining both sources as a

1913
01:26:12,860 --> 01:26:10,470
possibility for UFOs and that's where

1914
01:26:15,650 --> 01:26:12,870
things get interesting because in his

1915
01:26:17,630 --> 01:26:15,660
suggestions to the national security

1916
01:26:20,060 --> 01:26:17,640
apparatus he's not only telling them

1917
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:20,070
look for this and that German scientists

1918
01:26:23,690 --> 01:26:22,320
because we don't know where they are and

1919
01:26:25,870 --> 01:26:23,700
we don't know what they're doing but

1920
01:26:28,700 --> 01:26:25,880
he's also suggesting we need

1921
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:28,710
intelligence collection on the other

1922
01:26:34,730 --> 01:26:31,650
possible origin namely a non terrestrial

1923
01:26:36,110 --> 01:26:34,740
origin for some of these phenomena so

1924
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:36,120
the national security establishment

1925
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:38,850
again is put into position they're

1926
01:26:42,260 --> 01:26:40,530
having to deal with the communist threat

1927
01:26:45,050 --> 01:26:42,270
they're having to deal with some sort of

1928
01:26:48,050 --> 01:26:45,060
post-war Nazi thing god knows where it

1929
01:26:50,030 --> 01:26:48,060
is and what it's doing and it has to

1930
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:50,040
deal with the possibility that we're

1931
01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:52,410
being visited by someone else that's not

1932
01:26:57,890 --> 01:26:55,290
from here this is yeah they're going to

1933
01:27:00,200 --> 01:26:57,900
put into place a secret program of crash

1934
01:27:02,390 --> 01:27:00,210
development and by the nature of the

1935
01:27:04,220 --> 01:27:02,400
case that's going to require a lot of

1936
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:04,230
money so again all of this is

1937
01:27:08,660 --> 01:27:06,210
interconnected you know and you would

1938
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:08,670
think after 60 plus years that they

1939
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:11,850
would have made some progress absolutely

1940
01:27:15,530 --> 01:27:13,770
I've got some really good questions here

1941
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:15,540
and I want to get to some of them this

1942
01:27:20,300 --> 01:27:17,730
one comes from nameless who in our

1943
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:20,310
questioned ankat forum dr. Peric ascom

1944
01:27:23,810 --> 01:27:21,810
where you can ask questions of our

1945
01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:23,820
guests that we asked on the air and he's

1946
01:27:28,970 --> 01:27:25,920
wondering if you've been making any new

1947
01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:28,980
foi a requests and and then he goes on

1948
01:27:34,130 --> 01:27:31,110
and asked if there's any more new

1949
01:27:36,350 --> 01:27:34,140
information about those crazy Nazis and

1950
01:27:37,670 --> 01:27:36,360
their secret technologies and it

1951
01:27:40,460 --> 01:27:37,680
particularly wants to know if there's

1952
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:40,470
any truth to a Russian scientific team

1953
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:43,440
allegedly finding a giant gold swastika

1954
01:27:49,410 --> 01:27:45,690
I think it's under Lake blot of stock

1955
01:27:51,060 --> 01:27:49,420
the isolate yeah

1956
01:27:53,370 --> 01:27:51,070
anything about that that's news to me I

1957
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:53,380
had not heard it's news to me too I have

1958
01:27:58,890 --> 01:27:56,650
heard that a giant gold swastika under

1959
01:28:07,919 --> 01:27:58,900
the other hi sir I'd be very surprised

1960
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:07,929
yeah no probably not

1961
01:28:11,610 --> 01:28:09,489
yeah that sounds a little bit

1962
01:28:13,740 --> 01:28:11,620
far-fetched but I have three people that

1963
01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:13,750
have all asked the same question about

1964
01:28:18,660 --> 01:28:16,480
that weird object that was found what

1965
01:28:20,910 --> 01:28:18,670
three years ago I think under the Baltic

1966
01:28:24,150 --> 01:28:20,920
that kind of looked like a UFO but I

1967
01:28:26,700 --> 01:28:24,160
think it may have been some sort of Nazi

1968
01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:26,710
any submarine emplacement famous also

1969
01:28:34,590 --> 01:28:29,110
wants to know what you know about that

1970
01:28:37,050 --> 01:28:34,600
particular story and if this technology

1971
01:28:39,180 --> 01:28:37,060
if it wasn't an e submarine emplacement

1972
01:28:41,340 --> 01:28:39,190
would it have had the ability to cut off

1973
01:28:43,770 --> 01:28:41,350
electricity and could it still be

1974
01:28:46,530 --> 01:28:43,780
affecting underwater uh no like this

1975
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:46,540
team's equipment they were experiencing

1976
01:28:50,189 --> 01:28:49,210
these kind of weird anomalies in

1977
01:28:51,930 --> 01:28:50,199
electrical equipment when they

1978
01:28:54,270 --> 01:28:51,940
approached it have you heard anything

1979
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:54,280
more about that particular story no I

1980
01:28:58,590 --> 01:28:56,290
haven't heard anything about it my

1981
01:29:00,270 --> 01:28:58,600
suspicion to be honest again Chris is

1982
01:29:03,330 --> 01:29:00,280
that what you're dealing with there in

1983
01:29:05,490 --> 01:29:03,340
the Baltic probably is not Nazi from

1984
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:05,500
what I've understood of that object

1985
01:29:11,580 --> 01:29:08,410
whatever it is it's it's a big concrete

1986
01:29:13,550 --> 01:29:11,590
thing what the Nazis would have been

1987
01:29:16,709 --> 01:29:13,560
doing in the Baltic there really were no

1988
01:29:19,970 --> 01:29:16,719
significant naval operations that they

1989
01:29:22,350 --> 01:29:19,980
conducted in the Baltic until the very

1990
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:22,360
beginning of Operation Barbarossa in

1991
01:29:28,110 --> 01:29:25,090
1941 and then toward the very end of the

1992
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:28,120
war in February of 1945 the German Navy

1993
01:29:33,380 --> 01:29:31,840
evacuated thousands of troops that had

1994
01:29:36,030 --> 01:29:33,390
been encircled in Courland

1995
01:29:39,330 --> 01:29:36,040
but other than that I'm not aware of any

1996
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:39,340
real significant German naval operations

1997
01:29:44,850 --> 01:29:42,850
in the Baltic covert or otherwise need

1998
01:29:46,919 --> 01:29:44,860
to have something like I have something

1999
01:29:48,979 --> 01:29:46,929
like that there there wasn't any threat

2000
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:48,989
from the from the Russian Baltic Fleet

2001
01:29:52,860 --> 01:29:51,250
the only other naval power in that

2002
01:29:54,689 --> 01:29:52,870
region would have been Sweden and of

2003
01:29:58,050 --> 01:29:54,699
course Germany wasn't at war with Sweden

2004
01:30:00,510 --> 01:29:58,060
right yeah they would know another

2005
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:00,520
question that goes into again the end

2006
01:30:05,350 --> 01:30:03,170
this end of the war period which is

2007
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:05,360
I think you do a great job in your books

2008
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:07,730
actually uh kind of following the

2009
01:30:12,450 --> 01:30:10,130
tendrils of different interesting

2010
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:12,460
characters and boomerang wants to know

2011
01:30:17,290 --> 01:30:15,410
if you have any information on the

2012
01:30:21,130 --> 01:30:17,300
mysterious disappearance after world war

2013
01:30:22,930 --> 01:30:21,140
ii of hans kammler who is an SS officer

2014
01:30:26,620 --> 01:30:22,940
who is also in charge of exotic

2015
01:30:28,930 --> 01:30:26,630
technology for the SS the answer to that

2016
01:30:31,300 --> 01:30:28,940
question and more questions from our

2017
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:31,310
listeners with dr. Joseph Ferrell and

2018
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communications network G n first came

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attack of the rock codes and it was a

2020
01:30:55,060 --> 01:30:53,120
critically acclaimed success and now

2021
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:55,070
there is the coming of the protectors a

2022
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former military intelligence man is

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contacted by a space woman in a dream a

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dream that turns out to be a nightmare

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because evil forces on our distant

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planet are planning to conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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classic kind attack of the rock OIG's

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and the coming of the protectors find

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out more at Rocko it's calm that's rock

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the site went down it just stopped

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that I was still starving and my

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that most of the soils that we grow our

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crops on here in the United States and

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[Music]

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this is the wrong tire co-author of the

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UFO encyclopedia other books you're

2127
01:35:09,250 --> 01:35:07,489
listening to the parrot cat dr. Joseph

2128
01:35:11,020 --> 01:35:09,260
Ferrell is answering your questions from

2129
01:35:13,569 --> 01:35:11,030
the question Bank at forum dr. Peric

2130
01:35:15,609 --> 01:35:13,579
ascom with gene and crisp Chris before

2131
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we get Joseph's response is there

2132
01:35:21,009 --> 01:35:18,289
another part to that question well he

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just ties in the possibility that Nick

2134
01:35:26,049 --> 01:35:22,610
cook may have been onto something in his

2135
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:26,059
book hunt for zero point because comer

2136
01:35:30,399 --> 01:35:28,489
was very involved in some of these

2137
01:35:32,919 --> 01:35:30,409
exotic technologies and then he just

2138
01:35:35,409 --> 01:35:32,929
disappears and it's do we know what

2139
01:35:38,529 --> 01:35:35,419
happened to him well Nick cook and Igor

2140
01:35:40,750 --> 01:35:38,539
Witkowski the the two researchers that

2141
01:35:43,149 --> 01:35:40,760
broke the story of the Bell Igor of

2142
01:35:45,310 --> 01:35:43,159
course broke it in Polish and then Nick

2143
01:35:47,259 --> 01:35:45,320
cook was made aware of his research and

2144
01:35:49,089 --> 01:35:47,269
broke the story in in hunt for zero

2145
01:35:51,580 --> 01:35:49,099
point for the first time in the English

2146
01:35:53,620 --> 01:35:51,590
language and then I picked up on the

2147
01:35:56,830 --> 01:35:53,630
story from largely from Nick cook and

2148
01:35:58,899 --> 01:35:56,840
went back and read Igor's research and

2149
01:36:00,159 --> 01:35:58,909
right and then you had the bike of the

2150
01:36:03,189 --> 01:36:00,169
black side and Brotherhood of the Bell

2151
01:36:06,279 --> 01:36:03,199
2x writes that I recommend highly I got

2152
01:36:08,589 --> 01:36:06,289
in touch with Igor and began to connect

2153
01:36:12,069 --> 01:36:08,599
the dots between the Bell and the

2154
01:36:14,770 --> 01:36:12,079
so-called fusion project that was being

2155
01:36:16,330 --> 01:36:14,780
run by a Nazi scientist in Argentina by

2156
01:36:21,609 --> 01:36:16,340
the name of dr. Ronald reefster

2157
01:36:25,629 --> 01:36:21,619
for quantum all right and to my mind the

2158
01:36:27,819 --> 01:36:25,639
dots connect to Argentina rather than as

2159
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:27,829
Nick cook and Igor maintained to this

2160
01:36:35,290 --> 01:36:31,449
country now I have people in Argentina

2161
01:36:37,060 --> 01:36:35,300
that have told me and I wish I could you

2162
01:36:40,540 --> 01:36:37,070
know I I am one of those people that

2163
01:36:43,719 --> 01:36:40,550
dislikes profound by having to rely or

2164
01:36:45,580 --> 01:36:43,729
say things based on anonymous resources

2165
01:36:48,879 --> 01:36:45,590
so read my books folks because what I do

2166
01:36:51,339 --> 01:36:48,889
there is I I connect other dots between

2167
01:36:54,759 --> 01:36:51,349
the Bell project and Argentina other

2168
01:36:56,709 --> 01:36:54,769
than relying upon anonymous sources so I

2169
01:36:58,330 --> 01:36:56,719
can't say who these people are about why

2170
01:37:00,370 --> 01:36:58,340
don't you give our first time listeners

2171
01:37:02,229 --> 01:37:00,380
who perhaps missed your previous

2172
01:37:04,389 --> 01:37:02,239
appearance just a thumbnail sketch on

2173
01:37:05,660 --> 01:37:04,399
the Nazi bell project well let me get to

2174
01:37:07,130 --> 01:37:05,670
that I mean

2175
01:37:08,900 --> 01:37:07,140
I want to make sure I answer the khamar

2176
01:37:12,890 --> 01:37:08,910
question because I've had people in

2177
01:37:16,189 --> 01:37:12,900
Argentina tell me that cobbler did go to

2178
01:37:19,550 --> 01:37:16,199
Argentina that he he disappeared with

2179
01:37:21,860 --> 01:37:19,560
the last yonkers 390 which is a huge six

2180
01:37:24,740 --> 01:37:21,870
engine aircraft that was capable of

2181
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:24,750
flying nonstop from from Germany down to

2182
01:37:28,340 --> 01:37:26,850
South America in fact it was one of the

2183
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:28,350
first planes to quit for midair

2184
01:37:35,300 --> 01:37:32,489
refueling so leave it to the Germans to

2185
01:37:38,570 --> 01:37:35,310
come up with something like this but but

2186
01:37:41,750 --> 01:37:38,580
know that yeah yeah the yonkers 290 and

2187
01:37:45,350 --> 01:37:41,760
390 were both capable of being refueled

2188
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:45,360
midair but cobbler according to these

2189
01:37:51,380 --> 01:37:48,330
people in Argentina flew that last

2190
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:51,390
yonkers 390 to Argentina and once he got

2191
01:37:54,950 --> 01:37:53,489
there the the Yonkers 390 itself was

2192
01:37:57,860 --> 01:37:54,960
dismantled which is why you've never

2193
01:37:59,390 --> 01:37:57,870
seen this huge mother of a plane again

2194
01:38:03,709 --> 01:37:59,400
you know there's only pictures of the

2195
01:38:08,150 --> 01:38:03,719
thing now the Belle project what briefly

2196
01:38:10,669 --> 01:38:08,160
it is is I've always maintained that the

2197
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:10,679
Nazis when they set up their secret

2198
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:12,570
research projects prior to the outbreak

2199
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:16,530
of world war ii they set up in effect

2200
01:38:22,580 --> 01:38:20,010
what amounts to an early version of the

2201
01:38:26,030 --> 01:38:22,590
american DARPA in fact I think DARPA is

2202
01:38:30,650 --> 01:38:26,040
model on the cobler stop on Connors

2203
01:38:32,419 --> 01:38:30,660
group when they set up these projects

2204
01:38:34,580 --> 01:38:32,429
before the war they set up another

2205
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:34,590
branch of the SS called for Jean and

2206
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:36,690
victim on top attentive research

2207
01:38:42,470 --> 01:38:40,130
development of pets this was under an SS

2208
01:38:45,050 --> 01:38:42,480
four-star general by the name of Amy

2209
01:38:47,930 --> 01:38:45,060
omatsu about whom you can find literally

2210
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:47,940
nothing and his FOIA file is still

2211
01:38:53,060 --> 01:38:50,610
classified I mean she can literally find

2212
01:38:55,610 --> 01:38:53,070
nothing about this man why would you

2213
01:38:59,180 --> 01:38:55,620
keep a file classified this no

2214
01:39:02,600 --> 01:38:59,190
significance exactly Mozza was

2215
01:39:04,729 --> 01:39:02,610
responsible for vetting all patent

2216
01:39:06,580 --> 01:39:04,739
applications in the Third Reich and then

2217
01:39:09,110 --> 01:39:06,590
later of course occupied Europe and

2218
01:39:11,930 --> 01:39:09,120
pulling any patent that had national

2219
01:39:15,530 --> 01:39:11,940
security applications and implications

2220
01:39:17,150 --> 01:39:15,540
and turning them over to the SS for

2221
01:39:17,740 --> 01:39:17,160
further research and development which

2222
01:39:20,090 --> 01:39:17,750
of course

2223
01:39:23,420 --> 01:39:20,100
basically turning it over to comm work

2224
01:39:25,460 --> 01:39:23,430
all right now when this group was

2225
01:39:26,930 --> 01:39:25,470
established under matza another group

2226
01:39:29,660 --> 01:39:26,940
was established called

2227
01:39:33,950 --> 01:39:29,670
and viglance telesphere development area

2228
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:33,960
for s4 interestingly enough and what

2229
01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:36,570
this group was supposed to do was make

2230
01:39:43,850 --> 01:39:39,810
Germany energy independent all right now

2231
01:39:46,790 --> 01:39:43,860
what this meant was they viewed any form

2232
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:46,800
of atomic energy as being the key to

2233
01:39:52,850 --> 01:39:49,890
their energy independence so the Nazis

2234
01:39:54,830 --> 01:39:52,860
in my opinion were after three things

2235
01:39:57,500 --> 01:39:54,840
with their exotic physics they were

2236
01:39:58,970 --> 01:39:57,510
first of all after so-called free energy

2237
01:40:00,650 --> 01:39:58,980
or zero-point energy

2238
01:40:02,330 --> 01:40:00,660
tuck that in the back of your mind

2239
01:40:04,370 --> 01:40:02,340
because that's part of the story it's a

2240
01:40:07,970 --> 01:40:04,380
detail I want to I want to get back to

2241
01:40:10,070 --> 01:40:07,980
the second thing they were after was any

2242
01:40:12,590 --> 01:40:10,080
time and they were dealing with

2243
01:40:14,780 --> 01:40:12,600
engineering the fabric of space-time on

2244
01:40:16,070 --> 01:40:14,790
the laboratory bench all right that's

2245
01:40:19,250 --> 01:40:16,080
the other thing I want to make very

2246
01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:19,260
clear that my research has indicated now

2247
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:21,450
anytime you say that anytime you say

2248
01:40:26,540 --> 01:40:24,690
that you are able to engineer the fabric

2249
01:40:29,300 --> 01:40:26,550
of space-time on the laboratory bench

2250
01:40:33,020 --> 01:40:29,310
what you're saying is first of all you

2251
01:40:35,210 --> 01:40:33,030
have the ability to create free energy

2252
01:40:38,690 --> 01:40:35,220
or so-called zero-point energy and two

2253
01:40:40,940 --> 01:40:38,700
you have a prototypical field propulsion

2254
01:40:43,250 --> 01:40:40,950
capability so that's the other thing

2255
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:43,260
they're after and then thirdly if you

2256
01:40:47,630 --> 01:40:45,330
can engineer the fabric of space-time on

2257
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:47,640
the laboratory bench and weaponize it

2258
01:40:51,830 --> 01:40:49,730
then you've got a weapon that

2259
01:40:53,780 --> 01:40:51,840
potentially would make a hydrogen bomb

2260
01:40:56,420 --> 01:40:53,790
look like a firecracker all right and

2261
01:40:59,690 --> 01:40:56,430
not cease being Nazis there could maybe

2262
01:41:02,720 --> 01:40:59,700
after a weapon the Belle project comes

2263
01:41:05,750 --> 01:41:02,730
out of the second of these things it is

2264
01:41:09,500 --> 01:41:05,760
a project from all accounts that appears

2265
01:41:11,690 --> 01:41:09,510
to have been conceived by the Nazis to

2266
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:11,700
investigate all three of these areas but

2267
01:41:17,900 --> 01:41:14,730
particularly the second one and they

2268
01:41:19,970 --> 01:41:17,910
apparently did if I witness reports are

2269
01:41:22,490 --> 01:41:19,980
to be credited and again that's part of

2270
01:41:24,650 --> 01:41:22,500
the story if they're to be credited they

2271
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:24,660
apparently did achieve some sort of

2272
01:41:30,649 --> 01:41:27,450
basic field propulsion capability

2273
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:30,659
because the device apparently levitate

2274
01:41:35,239 --> 01:41:33,449
all right and if that's all it did okay

2275
01:41:38,569 --> 01:41:35,249
in other words it didn't zip around like

2276
01:41:41,870 --> 01:41:38,579
a UFO it levitated and that was it but

2277
01:41:43,879 --> 01:41:41,880
that was significant enough now why did

2278
01:41:47,509 --> 01:41:43,889
I mention the zero-point energy because

2279
01:41:50,179 --> 01:41:47,519
when you look at this fusion project of

2280
01:41:53,449 --> 01:41:50,189
this Nazi working across sensibly for

2281
01:41:56,779 --> 01:41:53,459
Juan Peron in the early 1950s dr.

2282
01:41:59,899 --> 01:41:56,789
Richter when he was later queried by the

2283
01:42:02,709 --> 01:41:59,909
US Air Force on exactly what he was

2284
01:42:05,239 --> 01:42:02,719
doing because he had been denounced

2285
01:42:07,790 --> 01:42:05,249
publicly in the world press as a

2286
01:42:09,379 --> 01:42:07,800
charlatan and a fraud but apparently

2287
01:42:11,419 --> 01:42:09,389
this charlatan and a fraud was

2288
01:42:13,699 --> 01:42:11,429
interesting enough to the US Air Force

2289
01:42:17,509 --> 01:42:13,709
that they interviewed him secretly okay

2290
01:42:19,429 --> 01:42:17,519
and one atomic energy expert actually

2291
01:42:21,859 --> 01:42:19,439
said in his report to the Air Force that

2292
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:21,869
this guy is some sort of mad genius

2293
01:42:30,790 --> 01:42:26,880
working in the 1970s he's a couple

2294
01:42:34,370 --> 01:42:30,800
decades ahead of the rest of us folks

2295
01:42:36,589 --> 01:42:34,380
riester when he was interviewed said to

2296
01:42:39,729 --> 01:42:36,599
the Air Force and I put this quotation

2297
01:42:43,159 --> 01:42:39,739
in my book The Knot's International

2298
01:42:47,209 --> 01:42:43,169
reactor said that he was experimenting

2299
01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:47,219
with plasmas in a state of rotation now

2300
01:42:52,310 --> 01:42:49,199
stop and think right there how clever

2301
01:42:53,959 --> 01:42:52,320
that is because a hydrogen bomb as we've

2302
01:42:56,689 --> 01:42:53,969
been told there's nothing but a huge

2303
01:43:00,319 --> 01:42:56,699
miniature Sun all right it works on the

2304
01:43:02,810 --> 01:43:00,329
same principles but the Sun is a chained

2305
01:43:06,609 --> 01:43:02,820
up hydrogen bomb in the standard model

2306
01:43:09,140 --> 01:43:06,619
and it's in rotation and under

2307
01:43:12,379 --> 01:43:09,150
electromagnetic stress all right and

2308
01:43:15,859 --> 01:43:12,389
that's exactly what the Bell project did

2309
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:15,869
it rotated plasmas and subjected them to

2310
01:43:21,409 --> 01:43:18,570
electrical stress so in other words they

2311
01:43:24,649 --> 01:43:21,419
were they were trying to conduct or

2312
01:43:27,140 --> 01:43:24,659
construct an analog of the Sun all right

2313
01:43:28,729 --> 01:43:27,150
and therefore that means that they're

2314
01:43:30,649 --> 01:43:28,739
manipulating fusion and they're

2315
01:43:33,109 --> 01:43:30,659
manipulating gravity all at the same

2316
01:43:36,169 --> 01:43:33,119
time so Richter's down there in

2317
01:43:38,029 --> 01:43:36,179
argentina rotating his plasmas and

2318
01:43:40,100 --> 01:43:38,039
subjecting them to electrical stress

2319
01:43:42,020 --> 01:43:40,110
being denounced as a fraud and a

2320
01:43:43,850 --> 01:43:42,030
charlatan by the world press and

2321
01:43:46,370 --> 01:43:43,860
argentinian nuclear scientists

2322
01:43:48,850 --> 01:43:46,380
and when he's interviewed by the air

2323
01:43:51,980 --> 01:43:48,860
force he says oh and by the way I

2324
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:51,990
discovered all of this in 1936 in my

2325
01:43:57,500 --> 01:43:54,210
experiments stop and consider that date

2326
01:44:01,580 --> 01:43:57,510
folks on top of that he tells the air

2327
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:01,590
force and I discovered that plasmas in

2328
01:44:09,890 --> 01:44:05,570
this condition can function as a

2329
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:09,900
transducer of the cellular structure of

2330
01:44:16,490 --> 01:44:14,370
space and access and this is one of the

2331
01:44:21,220 --> 01:44:16,500
first times that you will hear this next

2332
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:21,230
phrase in any literature and access the

2333
01:44:28,460 --> 01:44:25,290
zero-point energy so in other words yeah

2334
01:44:31,870 --> 01:44:28,470
it's not interesting it's just think

2335
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:31,880
about that we're talking almost 70 years

2336
01:44:35,990 --> 01:44:34,890
I mean obviously you're skeptics the

2337
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:36,000
first thing they're gonna say it was

2338
01:44:40,220 --> 01:44:37,410
we'll wait a minute Joseph how come none

2339
01:44:42,440 --> 01:44:40,230
of this technology has come out why are

2340
01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:42,450
we still you know operating the fossil

2341
01:44:47,390 --> 01:44:45,090
fuels I'll tell you why first of all if

2342
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:47,400
you are if you're the power elite you're

2343
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:50,250
dealing with a technology which if it

2344
01:44:54,050 --> 01:44:52,890
gets out creates a proliferation

2345
01:44:57,610 --> 01:44:54,060
nightmare

2346
01:45:02,210 --> 01:44:57,620
all right nuclear energy can be traced

2347
01:45:03,980 --> 01:45:02,220
primarily because the standard model the

2348
01:45:05,990 --> 01:45:03,990
standard theory of making a

2349
01:45:09,020 --> 01:45:06,000
thermonuclear weapon the hydrogen bomb

2350
01:45:11,060 --> 01:45:09,030
is you have to have an atom bomb to set

2351
01:45:12,920 --> 01:45:11,070
the dang thing off to create the heat

2352
01:45:15,110 --> 01:45:12,930
and pressure gradients necessary to

2353
01:45:17,330 --> 01:45:15,120
achieve fusion I'll tell you what ladies

2354
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:17,340
and gentlemen we're gonna be set off if

2355
01:45:22,070 --> 01:45:19,770
we don't do this break that's a bad one

2356
01:45:30,939 --> 01:45:22,080
outside Joseph Ferrell joining gene and

2357
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America's largest independently owned

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communications network see does

2359
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advertising on the Genesis

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communications radio network actually

2361
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bring positive results

2362
01:45:48,619 --> 01:45:46,469
let's ask Thomas Walter come freeze-dry

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01:46:00,859 --> 01:45:48,629
guy Thomas talked about customer service

2364
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:00,869
at GM the bottom line if you'd like to

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Anderson have you ever wondered why

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banks stockbrokers investment advisors

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won't talk about gold IRAs they've been

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the financial industry won't recognize

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the value of gold for your retirement

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here's Jane Steinberg oh well we're into

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nuclear weaponry here folks with dr.

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01:48:10,590 --> 01:48:08,409
Joseph Ferrell and gene and Chris

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nuclear here this thing's going off the

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scale oh yeah now let me get back to the

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hydrogen bomb here for just a minute

2414
01:48:22,250 --> 01:48:18,730
what Richter was telling you was that

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you can achieve all of this without the

2416
01:48:29,270 --> 01:48:25,480
standard high temperature and pressure

2417
01:48:31,709 --> 01:48:29,280
gradients that standard physical theory

2418
01:48:33,450 --> 01:48:31,719
dictated was necessary so in other words

2419
01:48:36,810 --> 01:48:33,460
he was telling you you control you can

2420
01:48:38,669 --> 01:48:36,820
control fusion at much less high

2421
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:38,679
temperatures and under very different

2422
01:48:43,740 --> 01:48:41,050
conditions than the way it has been

2423
01:48:47,129 --> 01:48:43,750
pursued thus far and that also means

2424
01:48:48,990 --> 01:48:47,139
like it or not that he's suggesting that

2425
01:48:50,970 --> 01:48:49,000
you can create quote-unquote a clean

2426
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:50,980
hydrogen bomb in other words you can get

2427
01:48:55,500 --> 01:48:53,170
a really big bang without having an

2428
01:48:57,780 --> 01:48:55,510
atomic bomb as the fuse with all of the

2429
01:48:59,340 --> 01:48:57,790
nasty radiation and fallout

2430
01:49:01,290 --> 01:48:59,350
after-effects so that's the other thing

2431
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:01,300
he's telling you so yeah you're gonna

2432
01:49:05,910 --> 01:49:03,489
suppress this technology for that reason

2433
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:05,920
alone but there's another reason and he

2434
01:49:12,419 --> 01:49:08,370
also alluded to it and he we go back now

2435
01:49:14,939 --> 01:49:12,429
to UFOs and the early atomic and and

2436
01:49:17,939 --> 01:49:14,949
more importantly thermonuclear hydrogen

2437
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:17,949
bomb tests because as I point out in my

2438
01:49:24,290 --> 01:49:21,489
books when the earliest hydrogen bombs

2439
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:24,300
were let off when we let Mike off in

2440
01:49:32,970 --> 01:49:30,010
1952 the calculated pretest yield of the

2441
01:49:34,709 --> 01:49:32,980
device was between five I believe five

2442
01:49:37,470 --> 01:49:34,719
and eight megatons something like that

2443
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:37,480
it actually achieved a yield of about 10

2444
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:39,489
megatons so we had a little bit of an

2445
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:43,690
oops there okay the other big oops was

2446
01:49:49,890 --> 01:49:46,530
was the now-infamous Castle Bravo test

2447
01:49:52,950 --> 01:49:49,900
which again the pre calculated yield of

2448
01:49:54,660 --> 01:49:52,960
the bomb prior to the test was between

2449
01:49:57,720 --> 01:49:54,670
five and eight megatons when they lit

2450
01:49:59,030 --> 01:49:57,730
the thing off it ran away to a yield of

2451
01:50:01,790 --> 01:49:59,040
about fifteen

2452
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:01,800
megatonnes and the official story and

2453
01:50:07,850 --> 01:50:04,050
this again will connect back to Richter

2454
01:50:11,690 --> 01:50:07,860
the official story was that we had a lot

2455
01:50:14,480 --> 01:50:11,700
of lithium-7 in in the lithium deuteride

2456
01:50:18,170 --> 01:50:14,490
mix which was reliant in in the official

2457
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:18,180
story on calculations of the yield of

2458
01:50:24,140 --> 01:50:21,330
lithium deuteride reliant on lithium 6

2459
01:50:25,310 --> 01:50:24,150
rather than lithium 7 all right so in

2460
01:50:28,580 --> 01:50:25,320
other words what they're telling you

2461
01:50:30,830 --> 01:50:28,590
folks is our scientists didn't know

2462
01:50:33,860 --> 01:50:30,840
enough thermonuclear chemistry to figure

2463
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:33,870
out that lithium 7 would feed the

2464
01:50:40,910 --> 01:50:38,210
reaction and to that I say bullroar

2465
01:50:43,660 --> 01:50:40,920
they're just not that clumsy they're

2466
01:50:46,460 --> 01:50:43,670
just not that stupid and besides that

2467
01:50:49,820 --> 01:50:46,470
when the US Air Force interviewed

2468
01:50:54,500 --> 01:50:49,830
Richter in 1954 he told them yeah I'm

2469
01:50:55,940 --> 01:50:54,510
using lithium 7 okay so in other words

2470
01:50:58,040 --> 01:50:55,950
it's part of standard thermonuclear

2471
01:51:01,070 --> 01:50:58,050
chemistry that's my point so in other

2472
01:51:04,220 --> 01:51:01,080
words there's another mechanism that led

2473
01:51:07,820 --> 01:51:04,230
to the runaway yield that they don't

2474
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:07,830
want anybody to pay attention to and I

2475
01:51:15,380 --> 01:51:11,250
strongly suspect that it goes back to

2476
01:51:18,110 --> 01:51:15,390
Richter's idea that a a plasma under

2477
01:51:22,070 --> 01:51:18,120
that condition of stress is also a

2478
01:51:24,140 --> 01:51:22,080
transducer reacting to the harmonics of

2479
01:51:26,780 --> 01:51:24,150
the structure of local celestial

2480
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:26,790
space-time in other words the position

2481
01:51:31,850 --> 01:51:28,890
of the planets where you set the bomb

2482
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:31,860
off on planet Earth phase of the moon

2483
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:34,050
you know sunspot activity all of this

2484
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:37,290
feeds into the reaction mechanism it's

2485
01:51:42,860 --> 01:51:40,410
like opening a sluice gate on a dam all

2486
01:51:45,590 --> 01:51:42,870
that energy comes cascading in the

2487
01:51:49,190 --> 01:51:45,600
reaction and I think this is the hidden

2488
01:51:51,830 --> 01:51:49,200
reason why all of that nuclear testing

2489
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:51,840
went on inside the United States and the

2490
01:51:55,940 --> 01:51:53,970
Soviet Union and more recently with

2491
01:51:58,610 --> 01:51:55,950
France and some of the other additions

2492
01:52:01,700 --> 01:51:58,620
to the thermonuclear Club because

2493
01:52:06,700 --> 01:52:01,710
they're trying to learn the harmonic

2494
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:06,710
laws by rote experimentation of how that

2495
01:52:12,859 --> 01:52:10,290
mechanism works now that said I want to

2496
01:52:15,859 --> 01:52:12,869
go back to our good friend Nikolai Kozar

2497
01:52:17,390 --> 01:52:15,869
the Soviet Union because what's Nicola

2498
01:52:20,180 --> 01:52:17,400
Kosar have specialty

2499
01:52:23,629 --> 01:52:20,190
well his specialty is guess what

2500
01:52:27,919 --> 01:52:23,639
thermonuclear reactions and stars okay

2501
01:52:30,379 --> 01:52:27,929
and Kozar F was saying effectively the

2502
01:52:32,300 --> 01:52:30,389
same thing in the Soviet Union he was

2503
01:52:35,180 --> 01:52:32,310
saying that the sun's putting out more

2504
01:52:38,300 --> 01:52:35,190
energy than the standard model of a

2505
01:52:40,669 --> 01:52:38,310
chained up hydrogen bomb would admit so

2506
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:40,679
where's this energy coming from and the

2507
01:52:45,620 --> 01:52:42,090
moment he says this

2508
01:52:48,709 --> 01:52:45,630
that's when Pravda denounces him as a

2509
01:52:51,050 --> 01:52:48,719
screwball and a fraud and shuffles him

2510
01:52:53,149 --> 01:52:51,060
off into Soviet dark projects and black

2511
01:52:56,450 --> 01:52:53,159
projects to research just what the heck

2512
01:52:58,669 --> 01:52:56,460
is going on here and I suspect that this

2513
01:53:02,540 --> 01:52:58,679
is the real reason that Nikita

2514
01:53:05,060 --> 01:53:02,550
Khrushchev in the 1961 fired off that

2515
01:53:07,459 --> 01:53:05,070
giant mungus hydrogen bomb called the

2516
01:53:11,419 --> 01:53:07,469
tsar bomba that reached a yield of about

2517
01:53:14,030 --> 01:53:11,429
57 megatons over Novaya Zemlya

2518
01:53:15,740 --> 01:53:14,040
there near the Arctic Circle I suspect

2519
01:53:18,050 --> 01:53:15,750
strongly that what the Soviets are

2520
01:53:20,149 --> 01:53:18,060
really doing was trying to figure out

2521
01:53:21,530 --> 01:53:20,159
just what the heck was going on with

2522
01:53:23,629 --> 01:53:21,540
these nuclear bombs

2523
01:53:25,250 --> 01:53:23,639
well Richter told the Richter told the

2524
01:53:27,350 --> 01:53:25,260
United States Air Force that these

2525
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:27,360
things are transducers of the zero-point

2526
01:53:32,570 --> 01:53:30,570
energy and he told them that in 1954 and

2527
01:53:35,089 --> 01:53:32,580
he told them that it was based on

2528
01:53:37,790 --> 01:53:35,099
observations he made during experiments

2529
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:37,800
but he was making inside of Nazi Germany

2530
01:53:42,620 --> 01:53:40,170
in 1936 so yeah I'm in full agreement

2531
01:53:46,910 --> 01:53:42,630
Chris God knows what they've got up

2532
01:53:49,189 --> 01:53:46,920
there station that leads me to another

2533
01:53:51,979 --> 01:53:49,199
question now we're talking about you

2534
01:53:54,709 --> 01:53:51,989
know obviously being able to tap you

2535
01:53:57,649 --> 01:53:54,719
know the energy of actual space time his

2536
01:53:59,629 --> 01:53:57,659
is like the ultimate gas station if you

2537
01:54:02,990 --> 01:53:59,639
will or one of our administrators here

2538
01:54:05,330 --> 01:54:03,000
at Forum dr. Peric ascom GOG says makai

2539
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:05,340
or is wondering about is there any

2540
01:54:09,260 --> 01:54:07,290
reason to believe conspiracy theories

2541
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:09,270
that argue that people may who may have

2542
01:54:13,250 --> 01:54:11,010
invented free or near free energy

2543
01:54:15,229 --> 01:54:13,260
devices are being bumped off possibly at

2544
01:54:17,689 --> 01:54:15,239
the behest of large energy corporations

2545
01:54:19,520 --> 01:54:17,699
with a question mark do you have any

2546
01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:19,530
evidence or any reason to believe that

2547
01:54:25,129 --> 01:54:22,560
the this type of technology has been

2548
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:25,139
developed let's say privately you know

2549
01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:26,489
out of out of the hands

2550
01:54:30,589 --> 01:54:28,110
the breakaway civilization but maybe

2551
01:54:32,779 --> 01:54:30,599
alongside that oh yes absolutely

2552
01:54:35,779 --> 01:54:32,789
his name is dr. Andrea Rossi the

2553
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:35,789
phenomenon is called low-energy

2554
01:54:40,729 --> 01:54:38,130
lattice assisted nuclear reaction in

2555
01:54:42,620 --> 01:54:40,739
other words cold fusion because again

2556
01:54:45,080 --> 01:54:42,630
let's go back to what Richter said

2557
01:54:47,779 --> 01:54:45,090
Richter was maintaining that he was

2558
01:54:51,339 --> 01:54:47,789
achieving fusion results at temperatures

2559
01:54:54,259 --> 01:54:51,349
far below what standard thermonuclear

2560
01:54:56,629 --> 01:54:54,269
physics quantum mechanics said was

2561
01:54:59,120 --> 01:54:56,639
possible and he told them that at the

2562
01:55:01,850 --> 01:54:59,130
time that was why he was roundly

2563
01:55:04,580 --> 01:55:01,860
denounced and then he told the airforce

2564
01:55:07,310 --> 01:55:04,590
the mechanism by which he was achieving

2565
01:55:11,089 --> 01:55:07,320
this and he explained it in terms of a

2566
01:55:13,459 --> 01:55:11,099
transduction between the plasma and the

2567
01:55:16,069 --> 01:55:13,469
cellular structure in other words

2568
01:55:19,100 --> 01:55:16,079
substitute for cellular their lattice

2569
01:55:21,830 --> 01:55:19,110
structure of local space-time and once

2570
01:55:24,379 --> 01:55:21,840
you've said that you see that he was

2571
01:55:27,529 --> 01:55:24,389
thinking in terms not only two decades

2572
01:55:30,049 --> 01:55:27,539
ahead he was thinking in terms of a a

2573
01:55:33,439 --> 01:55:30,059
scientific model that has only recently

2574
01:55:35,839 --> 01:55:33,449
been accepted as an explanation for why

2575
01:55:39,979 --> 01:55:35,849
cold fusion works it is a lattice

2576
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:39,989
assisted nuclear reaction that's exactly

2577
01:55:45,589 --> 01:55:42,480
what he was saying so in other words

2578
01:55:48,620 --> 01:55:45,599
cold fusion itself got out of the bottle

2579
01:55:50,959 --> 01:55:48,630
all right so it's out there and again

2580
01:55:53,660 --> 01:55:50,969
the reason it would be suppressed is

2581
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:53,670
once you left the technology out this

2582
01:55:58,700 --> 01:55:56,610
technology can be weaponized so it's a

2583
01:56:00,410 --> 01:55:58,710
proliferation nightmare for the power

2584
01:56:02,149 --> 01:56:00,420
elite they're going to keep it

2585
01:56:04,700 --> 01:56:02,159
suppressed until they can figure out a

2586
01:56:06,799 --> 01:56:04,710
way to create a mechanism a regulatory

2587
01:56:09,439 --> 01:56:06,809
structure an international structure

2588
01:56:12,229 --> 01:56:09,449
what-have-you to prevent that technology

2589
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:12,239
from falling into the wrong hands that's

2590
01:56:17,660 --> 01:56:15,210
been precisely the game since Nikola

2591
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:17,670
Tesla came on the scene that's what

2592
01:56:22,220 --> 01:56:19,530
they're really about and again I'm not

2593
01:56:23,810 --> 01:56:22,230
trying to justify their reactions but I

2594
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:23,820
am attempting to show that their

2595
01:56:28,339 --> 01:56:26,010
concerns were at least justified in that

2596
01:56:30,620 --> 01:56:28,349
respect yeah they they would have to

2597
01:56:33,500 --> 01:56:30,630
suppress it now as for people being

2598
01:56:37,399 --> 01:56:33,510
bumped off Chris I think if you go to

2599
01:56:39,410 --> 01:56:37,409
the to the degree of bucking the system

2600
01:56:41,959 --> 01:56:39,420
how they do that in fact

2601
01:56:44,419 --> 01:56:41,969
Tom Bearden wrote you referenced him

2602
01:56:47,150 --> 01:56:44,429
earlier he wrote a book a kind of a

2603
01:56:49,100 --> 01:56:47,160
physics textbook if you will call free

2604
01:56:52,340 --> 01:56:49,110
energy it's a big thick toe and he

2605
01:56:54,290 --> 01:56:52,350
spends an entire chapter unusually in in

2606
01:56:57,350 --> 01:56:54,300
a book for physics talking about how

2607
01:56:59,630 --> 01:56:57,360
power elites will deal with people

2608
01:57:01,550 --> 01:56:59,640
experimenting with this stuff on their

2609
01:57:02,630 --> 01:57:01,560
own and they will game you yeah

2610
01:57:05,180 --> 01:57:02,640
absolutely

2611
01:57:08,630 --> 01:57:05,190
so I I don't not that it happens the

2612
01:57:11,510 --> 01:57:08,640
fate of the lone wolf investigator yep

2613
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:11,520
and the lone wolf scientist I guess you

2614
01:57:15,140 --> 01:57:13,050
can't have any of those anymore not like

2615
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:15,150
you having the science fiction world in

2616
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:17,730
any case we've got dr. Joseph Ferrell

2617
01:57:23,630 --> 01:57:20,610
joining us this week in the show as you

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01:57:26,180 --> 01:57:23,640
can see just what we talked about in

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announcing the show barely cuts the

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01:57:34,170 --> 01:57:28,380
surface a lot more to go with gene and

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to muse at the para cast calm that's

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news

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at the para cast calm and don't forget

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to visit our famous para cast community

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on the para cast with Gina and Chris the

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final three segments lots of questions

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from our listeners would try to follow

2713
02:02:12,780 --> 02:02:10,780
up where we can Chris well we've been

2714
02:02:15,900 --> 02:02:12,790
talking a lot here about the tie-in of

2715
02:02:18,060 --> 02:02:15,910
atomic energy and in how this might be

2716
02:02:19,950 --> 02:02:18,070
playing a part in some of these exotic

2717
02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:19,960
technologies and here's a question from

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02:02:25,110 --> 02:02:23,410
sign flosser who's a recent signee he's

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02:02:28,170 --> 02:02:25,120
been around for about a year at forum

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02:02:29,880 --> 02:02:28,180
dr. Perik asked calm and he says there

2721
02:02:32,550 --> 02:02:29,890
seems to have been an ongoing connection

2722
02:02:35,070 --> 02:02:32,560
between UFOs UFO secrecy in atomic

2723
02:02:36,450 --> 02:02:35,080
energy many UFO cases indicate the

2724
02:02:39,180 --> 02:02:36,460
release of radioactive contamination

2725
02:02:41,010 --> 02:02:39,190
into our environment and he gives the

2726
02:02:43,070 --> 02:02:41,020
example of John keel for instance

2727
02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:43,080
believe the true Morrie Island incident

2728
02:02:47,340 --> 02:02:44,770
represented the dumping of radioactive

2729
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:47,350
waste from the Hanford plant into Puget

2730
02:02:52,290 --> 02:02:50,050
Sound that's a scary thought we even

2731
02:02:55,650 --> 02:02:52,300
find this atomic connection obviously in

2732
02:02:58,010 --> 02:02:55,660
the Nazi bell Roswell rounds from the

2733
02:03:00,090 --> 02:02:58,020
cash Landrum case and the the

2734
02:03:02,070 --> 02:03:00,100
before-mentioned Mountain missile

2735
02:03:04,230 --> 02:03:02,080
shutdowns the list goes on and on can

2736
02:03:07,140 --> 02:03:04,240
you discuss the possible involvement of

2737
02:03:09,090 --> 02:03:07,150
the AEC the nuclear power industries in

2738
02:03:12,150 --> 02:03:09,100
the suppression of UFO information since

2739
02:03:14,490 --> 02:03:12,160
47 and the cover-up of the illegal toxic

2740
02:03:16,550 --> 02:03:14,500
waste disposal well I don't know

2741
02:03:18,930 --> 02:03:16,560
anything about illegal toxic waste

2742
02:03:21,450 --> 02:03:18,940
disposal that's that's not been really

2743
02:03:24,780 --> 02:03:21,460
on my radar screen for research but with

2744
02:03:26,280 --> 02:03:24,790
respect to UFOs and atomic energy and

2745
02:03:28,410 --> 02:03:26,290
things like this you mentioned Richard

2746
02:03:31,170 --> 02:03:28,420
Hastings earlier and I reviewed some of

2747
02:03:32,850 --> 02:03:31,180
his research in a couple of my books

2748
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:32,860
you mean Robert Hastings right probably

2749
02:03:38,130 --> 02:03:35,890
yeah Robert okay my apologies one of the

2750
02:03:41,010 --> 02:03:38,140
things he points out and that I point

2751
02:03:44,370 --> 02:03:41,020
out in a book of mine called covert wars

2752
02:03:49,140 --> 02:03:44,380
and clash of civilizations is that UFOs

2753
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:49,150
were at the Mike and Castle Bravo test

2754
02:03:53,970 --> 02:03:51,490
and they were also present at another

2755
02:03:58,740 --> 02:03:53,980
hydrogen bomb test called castle

2756
02:04:01,140 --> 02:03:58,750
where the yield was significantly less

2757
02:04:03,990 --> 02:04:01,150
had been calculated in fact it was kind

2758
02:04:06,660 --> 02:04:04,000
of a nuclear physically and

2759
02:04:09,270 --> 02:04:06,670
interestingly enough castle was a

2760
02:04:10,860 --> 02:04:09,280
bomb that had been designed by Edward

2761
02:04:14,010 --> 02:04:10,870
Teller and his crew at Lawrence

2762
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:14,020
Livermore and the bomb fizzle again the

2763
02:04:20,280 --> 02:04:17,290
official explanation is that the design

2764
02:04:21,630 --> 02:04:20,290
was just flawed well I'm sorry but I

2765
02:04:23,760 --> 02:04:21,640
have a great deal of difficulty

2766
02:04:25,950 --> 02:04:23,770
believing that because Edward Teller

2767
02:04:28,590 --> 02:04:25,960
of course had had been part of the

2768
02:04:30,330 --> 02:04:28,600
design team for the mic test and then

2769
02:04:33,090 --> 02:04:30,340
later the Castle Bravo chest

2770
02:04:34,650 --> 02:04:33,100
alright so it's not as if these people

2771
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:34,660
don't know how to make a hydrogen bomb

2772
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:37,450
but when you factor in that UFOs were

2773
02:04:42,300 --> 02:04:39,850
present let's look at something if

2774
02:04:45,510 --> 02:04:42,310
you've got a field propulsion technology

2775
02:04:47,390 --> 02:04:45,520
that is viable that works that you're

2776
02:04:51,290 --> 02:04:47,400
manipulating the fabric of space-time

2777
02:04:54,060 --> 02:04:51,300
then the mere presence of something

2778
02:04:57,630 --> 02:04:54,070
producing that kind of to use the

2779
02:05:02,580 --> 02:04:57,640
expression space warp or time Bowl at

2780
02:05:05,370 --> 02:05:02,590
these tests will contribute a factor to

2781
02:05:07,740 --> 02:05:05,380
the yield all right so again we're back

2782
02:05:10,910 --> 02:05:07,750
with with rector's idea these things

2783
02:05:14,370 --> 02:05:10,920
these bombs are our transducers of

2784
02:05:17,220 --> 02:05:14,380
another energy that is feeding into the

2785
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:17,230
reaction and you can either damp that

2786
02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:20,890
energy or you can resonate with that

2787
02:05:25,530 --> 02:05:22,810
energy in other words you can either

2788
02:05:28,110 --> 02:05:25,540
decrease or significantly increase the

2789
02:05:32,250 --> 02:05:28,120
yield of these devices depending on

2790
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:32,260
local circumstances so again we're

2791
02:05:35,610 --> 02:05:34,330
dealing with the phenomenon I think

2792
02:05:37,950 --> 02:05:35,620
Chris an answer to your listeners

2793
02:05:39,900 --> 02:05:37,960
question that has been a highly

2794
02:05:42,390 --> 02:05:39,910
classified matter it's probably one of

2795
02:05:45,390 --> 02:05:42,400
the most closely held secrets of the

2796
02:05:47,670 --> 02:05:45,400
thermal nuclear powers and I find it

2797
02:05:50,760 --> 02:05:47,680
very interesting that we should have

2798
02:05:53,280 --> 02:05:50,770
such a readjust a flowering of reports

2799
02:05:55,860 --> 02:05:53,290
and in a huge wave of sightings as soon

2800
02:05:58,260 --> 02:05:55,870
as we entered the Atomic Age and I guess

2801
02:06:01,770 --> 02:05:58,270
I've always felt that that that was a

2802
02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:01,780
very important clue and also in one

2803
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:03,250
sense of the word could actually be a

2804
02:06:08,490 --> 02:06:06,010
clue that whomever is flying these craft

2805
02:06:10,500 --> 02:06:08,500
or whatever intelligences is behind them

2806
02:06:12,150 --> 02:06:10,510
it has some sort of stake in our

2807
02:06:14,970 --> 02:06:12,160
environment and that kind of freaked

2808
02:06:17,160 --> 02:06:14,980
because let me interrupt there because I

2809
02:06:19,110 --> 02:06:17,170
think you're I think you're spot on and

2810
02:06:22,410 --> 02:06:19,120
the reason I want to interrupt your

2811
02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:22,420
Chris and and jump in is because if you

2812
02:06:26,580 --> 02:06:24,370
put yourself in the shoes of the

2813
02:06:29,310 --> 02:06:26,590
national security establishment dealing

2814
02:06:32,580 --> 02:06:29,320
with all of these UFO nuclear related

2815
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:32,590
sightings beginning with the thermo

2816
02:06:37,020 --> 02:06:35,530
nuclear tests and on into the 1960s when

2817
02:06:39,300 --> 02:06:37,030
they're turning on and turning off

2818
02:06:42,900 --> 02:06:39,310
missiles and reprogramming and so on I

2819
02:06:45,120 --> 02:06:42,910
think the first thing that the national

2820
02:06:48,780 --> 02:06:45,130
security establishment would inevitably

2821
02:06:52,380 --> 02:06:48,790
ask is why all the interest in nuclear

2822
02:06:55,860 --> 02:06:52,390
weapons we have absolutely no capability

2823
02:06:59,970 --> 02:06:55,870
to deliver these things to any target

2824
02:07:01,710 --> 02:06:59,980
off world all right so they begin to

2825
02:07:04,710 --> 02:07:01,720
think then why are they so concerned

2826
02:07:08,570 --> 02:07:04,720
they must be concerned because somehow

2827
02:07:12,630 --> 02:07:08,580
nuclear energy may be a gateway

2828
02:07:15,930 --> 02:07:12,640
technology to greater capabilities that

2829
02:07:18,480 --> 02:07:15,940
we are unaware of enter dr. Richter and

2830
02:07:22,530 --> 02:07:18,490
why he's interviewed by the US Air Force

2831
02:07:25,340 --> 02:07:22,540
after the castle Bravo and and mic tests

2832
02:07:28,140 --> 02:07:25,350
and he's telling them exactly

2833
02:07:30,390 --> 02:07:28,150
confirmation of what they probably have

2834
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:30,400
already begun to suspect that we're

2835
02:07:34,710 --> 02:07:32,890
dealing with a gateway technology it's

2836
02:07:36,990 --> 02:07:34,720
not the nuclear energy that they're

2837
02:07:39,810 --> 02:07:37,000
concerned about it's the fact that we

2838
02:07:42,600 --> 02:07:39,820
might discover what the Gateway is and

2839
02:07:45,630 --> 02:07:42,610
how to manipulate it and therefore get

2840
02:07:47,790 --> 02:07:45,640
out there ourselves okay that's what I

2841
02:07:48,830 --> 02:07:47,800
think they're going to start thinking I

2842
02:07:51,780 --> 02:07:48,840
think you're spot-on

2843
02:07:54,330 --> 02:07:51,790
well interesting uh it brings up a

2844
02:07:58,050 --> 02:07:54,340
number of questions about our space

2845
02:08:01,370 --> 02:07:58,060
program yep and there's one again from

2846
02:08:03,780 --> 02:08:01,380
sign flosser and he's wondering about

2847
02:08:06,840 --> 02:08:03,790
potential secret propulsion technology

2848
02:08:08,820 --> 02:08:06,850
in Apollo the Apollo program and the

2849
02:08:16,380 --> 02:08:08,830
possibility of secret astronauts in the

2850
02:08:23,290 --> 02:08:19,650
in in the book the SS Brotherhood of the

2851
02:08:25,510 --> 02:08:23,300
Bell I pointed out that I

2852
02:08:29,010 --> 02:08:25,520
I'm not an Apollo hoaxer I definitely

2853
02:08:31,900 --> 02:08:29,020
believe that we went to the moon I

2854
02:08:35,410 --> 02:08:31,910
definitely also believe that the people

2855
02:08:40,830 --> 02:08:35,420
who have talked about Apollo being

2856
02:08:44,950 --> 02:08:40,840
hoaxed are in part correct in that the

2857
02:08:47,050 --> 02:08:44,960
the program was obfuscated the moon

2858
02:08:50,380 --> 02:08:47,060
landings were obfuscated we were shown a

2859
02:08:53,080 --> 02:08:50,390
bit of theater all right but part of the

2860
02:08:56,950 --> 02:08:53,090
theater that I think people have missed

2861
02:09:00,910 --> 02:08:56,960
is there's a famous clip I think it's

2862
02:09:03,430 --> 02:09:00,920
Apollo 17 of the lunar excursion module

2863
02:09:06,730 --> 02:09:03,440
taking off from the moon

2864
02:09:10,330 --> 02:09:06,740
and it just sort of pops up and flies

2865
02:09:15,490 --> 02:09:10,340
away and when I first saw that as a kid

2866
02:09:17,790 --> 02:09:15,500
I said that's not a rocket now if you're

2867
02:09:21,910 --> 02:09:17,800
faking if you're hoaxing that seat

2868
02:09:24,850 --> 02:09:21,920
you're going to show a rocket taking off

2869
02:09:27,010 --> 02:09:24,860
like a rocket does it it accelerates

2870
02:09:30,490 --> 02:09:27,020
geometrically in other words per unit of

2871
02:09:33,700 --> 02:09:30,500
time it travels a further distance per

2872
02:09:35,890 --> 02:09:33,710
unit of time it starts out slow and then

2873
02:09:37,510 --> 02:09:35,900
it gradually increases in speed when did

2874
02:09:39,850 --> 02:09:37,520
that almost look like a knee grab techno

2875
02:09:42,550 --> 02:09:39,860
yeah bingo that's precisely what I was

2876
02:09:45,670 --> 02:09:42,560
getting at what you're looking at is an

2877
02:09:49,150 --> 02:09:45,680
alternative technology in play and that

2878
02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:49,160
alternative technology also gets you

2879
02:09:55,180 --> 02:09:52,370
through the Van Allen radiation belts

2880
02:09:57,280 --> 02:09:55,190
okay when you put things in rotation I

2881
02:09:59,470 --> 02:09:57,290
think this is what the Nazis discovered

2882
02:10:04,270 --> 02:09:59,480
with their bail device when you put

2883
02:10:06,700 --> 02:10:04,280
highly radioactive isotopes in extreme

2884
02:10:09,580 --> 02:10:06,710
rotation and subject them to electrical

2885
02:10:11,950 --> 02:10:09,590
stress you change the rates of decay

2886
02:10:14,080 --> 02:10:11,960
again you're playing with the phenomenon

2887
02:10:16,120 --> 02:10:14,090
of engineering space time on the

2888
02:10:18,460 --> 02:10:16,130
laboratory bench and we have to

2889
02:10:21,820 --> 02:10:18,470
basically engineer this on this bench

2890
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:21,830
before we go on dr. Joseph Farrell joins

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and sells for less than $30 yes

2951
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it's fake TV this year about 1 in every

2952
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50 US homes will have a break in with

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burglars usually picking the easy target

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a dark house that looks like no one is

2955
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home fake TV is a small electronic

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security device that makes it look like

2957
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someone is home watching TV by

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simulating the light from a real TV fake

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2960
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that's been ransacked to get your fake

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nuclear physicist lecturer Stanton

2995
02:14:54,020 --> 02:14:50,190
Friedman you are listening to the

2996
02:15:02,030 --> 02:14:54,030
barricade the gold standard a paranormal

2997
02:15:04,910 --> 02:15:02,040
radio if you're playing around with

2998
02:15:07,130 --> 02:15:04,920
space-time dr. ferral does that imply

2999
02:15:09,979 --> 02:15:07,140
that maybe we could travel through time

3000
02:15:13,010 --> 02:15:09,989
well not in the way that people usually

3001
02:15:14,990 --> 02:15:13,020
think you're not going to create you

3002
02:15:18,370 --> 02:15:15,000
know the grandfather paradox that that

3003
02:15:21,500 --> 02:15:18,380
has become so much a part of the public

3004
02:15:24,470 --> 02:15:21,510
perception of time travel or as I prefer

3005
02:15:28,030 --> 02:15:24,480
to call it time dilation back to the

3006
02:15:33,140 --> 02:15:28,040
future yeah you're dealing more with

3007
02:15:36,620 --> 02:15:33,150
changing rates of the flow of time and

3008
02:15:38,600 --> 02:15:36,630
that's in effect what we see with some

3009
02:15:41,030 --> 02:15:38,610
of this rotation or torsion based

3010
02:15:43,729 --> 02:15:41,040
technology you're seeing changes in

3011
02:15:46,070 --> 02:15:43,739
rates of radioactive decay and hence

3012
02:15:49,360 --> 02:15:46,080
when you put something in high rotation

3013
02:15:52,400 --> 02:15:49,370
it will significantly damp or or

3014
02:15:54,920 --> 02:15:52,410
increase radioactive effects depending

3015
02:15:57,620 --> 02:15:54,930
on how you construe it so I think yeah

3016
02:16:01,250 --> 02:15:57,630
that what we're looking at with Apollo

3017
02:16:03,050 --> 02:16:01,260
isn't so much a thing that didn't happen

3018
02:16:06,470 --> 02:16:03,060
what we're looking at is a hidden

3019
02:16:08,890 --> 02:16:06,480
technology that was in play and it's

3020
02:16:11,479 --> 02:16:08,900
significant to me it's extremely

3021
02:16:14,630 --> 02:16:11,489
significant to me and I've pointed this

3022
02:16:16,939 --> 02:16:14,640
out in my books over and over again that

3023
02:16:19,760 --> 02:16:16,949
the man who is the senior flight

3024
02:16:23,060 --> 02:16:19,770
administrator at Cape Canaveral during

3025
02:16:25,820 --> 02:16:23,070
Apollo is a Nazi scientist by the name

3026
02:16:28,189 --> 02:16:25,830
of dr. Cort Davis all right you often

3027
02:16:32,750 --> 02:16:28,199
see pictures of him with fun Brown at

3028
02:16:36,589 --> 02:16:32,760
NASA all right Davis is the guy in

3029
02:16:39,679 --> 02:16:36,599
charge of the Apollo flights themselves

3030
02:16:42,110 --> 02:16:39,689
all right so Davis if you dig and

3031
02:16:45,190 --> 02:16:42,120
scratch and sniff enough you will

3032
02:16:47,070 --> 02:16:45,200
discover that Davis was one of the major

3033
02:16:49,740 --> 02:16:47,080
scientists

3034
02:16:51,690 --> 02:16:49,750
working in association with the Nazi

3035
02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:51,700
bell and in fact I point out in my

3036
02:16:57,000 --> 02:16:54,010
research that it's very likely that he

3037
02:16:59,730 --> 02:16:57,010
and dr. Richter were both working for

3038
02:17:02,640 --> 02:16:59,740
the same German company working

3039
02:17:05,610 --> 02:17:02,650
precisely in the area of plasmas and

3040
02:17:08,970 --> 02:17:05,620
high voltage during World War two now

3041
02:17:10,890 --> 02:17:08,980
wise data is significant because if he's

3042
02:17:12,660 --> 02:17:10,900
working on that project he knows

3043
02:17:15,990 --> 02:17:12,670
something about the technology and

3044
02:17:19,980 --> 02:17:16,000
here's the clincher Davis isn't a rocket

3045
02:17:22,919 --> 02:17:19,990
scientist at all his specialty was get

3046
02:17:26,970 --> 02:17:22,929
this high-voltage direct-current

3047
02:17:29,430 --> 02:17:26,980
energy and measurement and plasmids so

3048
02:17:32,070 --> 02:17:29,440
the fact that you have him in that

3049
02:17:35,310 --> 02:17:32,080
position in the Apollo program has

3050
02:17:38,490 --> 02:17:35,320
always suggested to me that at some

3051
02:17:41,070 --> 02:17:38,500
point the NASA scientists realized that

3052
02:17:43,560 --> 02:17:41,080
they were not going to be able to pull

3053
02:17:46,610 --> 02:17:43,570
off this dream of President Kennedy of

3054
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:46,620
getting to the moon without some

3055
02:17:52,410 --> 02:17:49,210
alternative technology and at that point

3056
02:17:54,150 --> 02:17:52,420
the rabbit I mean either had the rabbit

3057
02:17:57,330 --> 02:17:54,160
coming out of the Hat at that point we

3058
02:18:00,690 --> 02:17:57,340
made the deal with the Nazi devil it's

3059
02:18:03,959 --> 02:18:00,700
interesting and significant to me that

3060
02:18:08,180 --> 02:18:03,969
when Apollo lands on the moon July 20th

3061
02:18:12,330 --> 02:18:08,190
1969 that is the 25th year anniversary

3062
02:18:16,200 --> 02:18:12,340
to the day of the failed bomb plot

3063
02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:16,210
against Adolphe Hitler in 1944 so in

3064
02:18:23,070 --> 02:18:18,010
other words yeah it's very very

3065
02:18:25,709 --> 02:18:23,080
interesting I think that we made the

3066
02:18:28,050 --> 02:18:25,719
deal with the Nazi devil and again

3067
02:18:31,110 --> 02:18:28,060
cooked with the collateralization of

3068
02:18:34,350 --> 02:18:31,120
space idea I think that what the deal in

3069
02:18:36,690 --> 02:18:34,360
part was was that whatever we found out

3070
02:18:39,810 --> 02:18:36,700
there had to be shared with them be a

3071
02:18:44,570 --> 02:18:39,820
technology be it resources whatever so

3072
02:18:47,610 --> 02:18:44,580
yeah Davis Davis is a huge significant

3073
02:18:50,040 --> 02:18:47,620
extremely important man because he also

3074
02:18:52,080 --> 02:18:50,050
as I documented in covert wars and clash

3075
02:18:55,440 --> 02:18:52,090
of civilizations that the most recent

3076
02:18:57,450 --> 02:18:55,450
book that just came out he also was

3077
02:19:01,080 --> 02:18:57,460
involved with heading

3078
02:19:04,320 --> 02:19:01,090
some sort of internal NASA UFO study

3079
02:19:08,520 --> 02:19:04,330
okay and after he retired from NASA even

3080
02:19:10,379 --> 02:19:08,530
more interesting is he becomes a member

3081
02:19:12,540 --> 02:19:10,389
of the board for a West German company

3082
02:19:15,030 --> 02:19:12,550
called Oh truck orbital raft hatin

3083
02:19:19,260 --> 02:19:15,040
transport Oxygen's goes a shaft which

3084
02:19:22,919 --> 02:19:19,270
had kind of its own private area 51

3085
02:19:24,870 --> 02:19:22,929
facility in the Congo in Zaire that was

3086
02:19:27,270 --> 02:19:24,880
being run by the German government so

3087
02:19:30,510 --> 02:19:27,280
this guy you know he has his fingers and

3088
02:19:33,240 --> 02:19:30,520
tested every classified by you can think

3089
02:19:35,910 --> 02:19:33,250
of it's funny how these names pop up and

3090
02:19:37,379 --> 02:19:35,920
in in relation to particular subjects

3091
02:19:39,540 --> 02:19:37,389
and how they all seem to be

3092
02:19:41,610 --> 02:19:39,550
interconnected on some level oh yes in

3093
02:19:43,230 --> 02:19:41,620
reading your books I must say that the

3094
02:19:45,810 --> 02:19:43,240
way you track down some of these

3095
02:19:49,440 --> 02:19:45,820
connections is is really fascinating and

3096
02:19:50,810 --> 02:19:49,450
it's a real world-class research I mean

3097
02:19:52,860 --> 02:19:50,820
some of the stuff that you're finding

3098
02:19:54,960 --> 02:19:52,870
some of what you've described today

3099
02:19:56,850 --> 02:19:54,970
there's many many others are really

3100
02:19:59,220 --> 02:19:56,860
first-time discoveries and putting

3101
02:20:01,740 --> 02:19:59,230
together people places things and events

3102
02:20:03,870 --> 02:20:01,750
in a way that nobody's done before but

3103
02:20:05,430 --> 02:20:03,880
it's it's all due to your research

3104
02:20:07,261 --> 02:20:05,440
you're not making this stuff up

3105
02:20:08,490 --> 02:20:07,271
no even though some of your conclusions

3106
02:20:11,160 --> 02:20:08,500
kind of go into the realm of speculation

3107
02:20:13,560 --> 02:20:11,170
you have enough ammunition to make these

3108
02:20:15,960 --> 02:20:13,570
speculations in an in an informed way I

3109
02:20:18,780 --> 02:20:15,970
must say well yeah that's that's

3110
02:20:20,580 --> 02:20:18,790
something I I thank you for mentioning I

3111
02:20:22,920 --> 02:20:20,590
do want to stress the people that may

3112
02:20:26,030 --> 02:20:22,930
not be aware of my work my books are

3113
02:20:29,250 --> 02:20:26,040
very heavily footnoted I'm a believer in

3114
02:20:32,430 --> 02:20:29,260
referencing material and and when you

3115
02:20:35,100 --> 02:20:32,440
are arguing a speculation that you make

3116
02:20:37,560 --> 02:20:35,110
it clear that you're speculating but in

3117
02:20:41,040 --> 02:20:37,570
the case of Davis there's so many dots

3118
02:20:44,670 --> 02:20:41,050
that connect to this man and I mean my

3119
02:20:46,890 --> 02:20:44,680
word after the Roswell event the US Army

3120
02:20:48,810 --> 02:20:46,900
for some reason you know and consider

3121
02:20:51,360 --> 02:20:48,820
this folks the US Army for some reason

3122
02:20:53,820 --> 02:20:51,370
decided to reopen the security

3123
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:53,830
classification and vetting of these Nazi

3124
02:20:57,390 --> 02:20:55,210
scientists it has brought to this

3125
02:21:00,360 --> 02:20:57,400
country and one of them whom they were

3126
02:21:03,960 --> 02:21:00,370
most concerned about was good ol dr.

3127
02:21:05,790 --> 02:21:03,970
Davis take that for whatever it is but

3128
02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:05,800
the fact of the matter is it's

3129
02:21:11,590 --> 02:21:09,050
well and people who wonder you know what

3130
02:21:16,840 --> 02:21:11,600
influence you know the higher-ups in the

3131
02:21:20,140 --> 02:21:16,850
Nazi apparatus had on you know US policy

3132
02:21:24,820 --> 02:21:20,150
and us covert operations I mean we

3133
02:21:26,920 --> 02:21:24,830
basically took the Eastern European spy

3134
02:21:29,410 --> 02:21:26,930
network that the Nazis had and just put

3135
02:21:33,190 --> 02:21:29,420
a new name on it and called it our own

3136
02:21:36,460 --> 02:21:33,200
basically with the with the who was it

3137
02:21:39,340 --> 02:21:36,470
uh that scary-looking guy Galen I think

3138
02:21:41,380 --> 02:21:39,350
was Reinhardt Galen Reinhardt Galen oh

3139
02:21:44,050 --> 02:21:41,390
man what a spooky-looking dude and

3140
02:21:46,390 --> 02:21:44,060
basically all his guys became our guys

3141
02:21:48,160 --> 02:21:46,400
yeah basically yeah basically

3142
02:21:53,070 --> 02:21:48,170
and and they really didn't become our

3143
02:22:01,180 --> 02:21:57,550
different masters on paper like Carl

3144
02:22:04,930 --> 02:22:01,190
Oglesby American historian wrote when he

3145
02:22:08,440 --> 02:22:04,940
was made aware of the extent of the

3146
02:22:11,800 --> 02:22:08,450
post-war American Nazi collaboration he

3147
02:22:14,290 --> 02:22:11,810
he commented on Galen in particular and

3148
02:22:17,080 --> 02:22:14,300
pointed out that basically when when the

3149
02:22:19,990 --> 02:22:17,090
CIA was created because of the deals

3150
02:22:22,990 --> 02:22:20,000
that we had made with Galen after the

3151
02:22:27,700 --> 02:22:23,000
war Galen's entire military intelligence

3152
02:22:29,020 --> 02:22:27,710
network was left intact you know so so

3153
02:22:31,360 --> 02:22:29,030
basically you had the human

3154
02:22:33,940 --> 02:22:31,370
on-the-ground intelligence network that

3155
02:22:35,950 --> 02:22:33,950
was gathering and reporting on Soviet

3156
02:22:37,870 --> 02:22:35,960
intentions and activities well that was

3157
02:22:40,330 --> 02:22:37,880
all galen's Network and it was so bad

3158
02:22:43,060 --> 02:22:40,340
Chris as I pointed out in covert wars

3159
02:22:46,360 --> 02:22:43,070
and clash of civilizations that his

3160
02:22:48,310 --> 02:22:46,370
Intelligence Estimates in the 1940s were

3161
02:22:50,710 --> 02:22:48,320
often simply retyped

3162
02:22:52,630 --> 02:22:50,720
without any additional commentary or

3163
02:22:57,910 --> 02:22:52,640
editing and passed on directly to

3164
02:23:02,440 --> 02:22:57,920
President Truman so we have a Nazi

3165
02:23:04,450 --> 02:23:02,450
General affecting policy formation in

3166
02:23:06,490 --> 02:23:04,460
this country at the highest level yeah

3167
02:23:08,470 --> 02:23:06,500
and these were the worst enemies yeah

3168
02:23:12,370 --> 02:23:08,480
these were the worst enemies I mean my

3169
02:23:14,710 --> 02:23:12,380
word you know could you possibly pick a

3170
02:23:17,050 --> 02:23:14,720
worse crew to do business with you know

3171
02:23:18,990 --> 02:23:17,060
and I mentioned the Bilderberg meetings

3172
02:23:21,420 --> 02:23:19,000
earlier in the

3173
02:23:24,870 --> 02:23:21,430
program you know that I think they were

3174
02:23:28,080 --> 02:23:24,880
were created to coordinate the the Nazi

3175
02:23:30,360 --> 02:23:28,090
side and the American financial side of

3176
02:23:32,100 --> 02:23:30,370
all this Nazi Lou well look who you have

3177
02:23:34,020 --> 02:23:32,110
on the European side you have prince

3178
02:23:36,450 --> 02:23:34,030
bernhard organizing these things whose

3179
02:23:40,230 --> 02:23:36,460
prince burner well he was an SS major

3180
02:23:42,870 --> 02:23:40,240
and he was management in IG Farben and

3181
02:23:45,631 --> 02:23:42,880
one of the very first and most frequent

3182
02:23:48,660 --> 02:23:45,641
guests at the Bilderberg meetings was

3183
02:23:51,750 --> 02:23:48,670
dr. Hermann Yosef ops who was president

3184
02:23:54,990 --> 02:23:51,760
and CEO of deutsche bank and during the

3185
02:23:58,110 --> 02:23:55,000
war dr. ops was the president of a

3186
02:24:00,450 --> 02:23:58,120
handling bank in berlin that handled all

3187
02:24:03,360 --> 02:24:00,460
of the rice government accounts in other

3188
02:24:05,670 --> 02:24:03,370
words this is the guy signing the check

3189
02:24:08,120 --> 02:24:05,680
paying on off Hitler his salary as

3190
02:24:11,790 --> 02:24:08,130
Chancellor of the Third Reich

3191
02:24:14,400 --> 02:24:11,800
yeah it's fairly obvious what's going on

3192
02:24:17,670 --> 02:24:14,410
and by the way this combination is worse

3193
02:24:20,270 --> 02:24:17,680
than Microsoft and Apple doing business

3194
02:24:23,160 --> 02:24:20,280
together as they do

3195
02:24:29,750 --> 02:24:23,170
Joseph Ferrell joins gene and Chris in

3196
02:24:34,830 --> 02:24:31,980
independently leading the way for the

3197
02:24:39,020 --> 02:24:34,840
nation compelling talk for every

3198
02:24:41,700 --> 02:24:39,030
political persuasion we are G C and

3199
02:24:43,679 --> 02:24:41,710
attack of the rocket has been well

3200
02:24:45,510 --> 02:24:43,689
received by critics and readers alike

3201
02:24:48,030 --> 02:24:45,520
it's a thrill a minute story you'll

3202
02:24:50,370 --> 02:24:48,040
never forget a former US military

3203
02:24:52,650 --> 02:24:50,380
intelligence officer is haunted by

3204
02:24:55,290 --> 02:24:52,660
intense dreams about a beautiful woman

3205
02:24:58,050 --> 02:24:55,300
pleading for his help after a terrible

3206
02:25:00,300 --> 02:24:58,060
battle in outer space but the dreams

3207
02:25:02,130 --> 02:25:00,310
turn out to be true and thrust him into

3208
02:25:04,830 --> 02:25:02,140
a telepathic love affair with a woman

3209
02:25:07,200 --> 02:25:04,840
whose faraway planet is intent on

3210
02:25:10,020 --> 02:25:07,210
destroying the earth and now the

3211
02:25:12,480 --> 02:25:10,030
gripping tale continues in the coming of

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hello this is John Burroughs one of the

3305
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way

3306
02:28:48,541 --> 02:28:46,221
to the Rendlesham UFO incident you're

3307
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listening to the podcast the Goldstein

3308
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normal radio

3309
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we are not starting a conspiracy here

3310
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involving Apple Samsung Google Microsoft

3311
02:29:09,501 --> 02:29:07,950
no way although I'll ask you because we

3312
02:29:11,241 --> 02:29:09,511
haven't got much time left here there's

3313
02:29:13,310 --> 02:29:11,251
a lot of ground to cover Joseph Farah

3314
02:29:16,730 --> 02:29:13,320
are there any conspiracies involving

3315
02:29:19,701 --> 02:29:16,740
these tech giants oh I definitely think

3316
02:29:22,551 --> 02:29:19,711
so I definitely think so I mean just

3317
02:29:24,801 --> 02:29:22,561
look at Google's moves on the internet

3318
02:29:25,911 --> 02:29:24,811
recently with search engines and the

3319
02:29:29,270 --> 02:29:25,921
other things that they're up to

3320
02:29:31,671 --> 02:29:29,280
I suspect that again this is all part of

3321
02:29:35,871 --> 02:29:31,681
extending that electronic surveillance

3322
02:29:37,911 --> 02:29:35,881
network globally and part of that effort

3323
02:29:40,251 --> 02:29:37,921
ultimately that that we've been

3324
02:29:42,741 --> 02:29:40,261
discussing to to weaponize space because

3325
02:29:44,930 --> 02:29:42,751
it's really now international clearing

3326
02:29:47,690 --> 02:29:44,940
now is really about the flow of

3327
02:29:50,270 --> 02:29:47,700
information and to do that effectively

3328
02:29:52,671 --> 02:29:50,280
you have to be able to control and

3329
02:29:55,551 --> 02:29:52,681
maintain your space assets so absolutely

3330
02:29:59,060 --> 02:29:55,561
a meta question here we're weaponizing

3331
02:30:03,980 --> 02:29:59,070
space to protect against whom one

3332
02:30:07,281 --> 02:30:03,990
another or them well I take the view in

3333
02:30:10,071 --> 02:30:07,291
in my books Jean that for whatever

3334
02:30:12,741 --> 02:30:10,081
reason whether they're right earth or

3335
02:30:16,211 --> 02:30:12,751
wrong they took the national security

3336
02:30:18,591 --> 02:30:16,221
establishment took the view that the UFO

3337
02:30:22,430 --> 02:30:18,601
phenomena had to be treated as a

3338
02:30:24,020 --> 02:30:22,440
potential threat and given the activity

3339
02:30:27,890 --> 02:30:24,030
around nuclear weapons and weapons

3340
02:30:29,810 --> 02:30:27,900
facilities this this would have been the

3341
02:30:33,741 --> 02:30:29,820
only rational alternative for them to

3342
02:30:35,991 --> 02:30:33,751
take so I think they are

3343
02:30:37,761 --> 02:30:36,001
I don't conclude that they they

3344
02:30:40,581 --> 02:30:37,771
necessarily think it's an imminent

3345
02:30:43,551 --> 02:30:40,591
threat but I do think they are concerned

3346
02:30:45,381 --> 02:30:43,561
with preserving human independence of

3347
02:30:49,611 --> 02:30:45,391
action in my last book I talked about

3348
02:30:51,921 --> 02:30:49,621
the Tower of Babel moment of history and

3349
02:30:54,440 --> 02:30:51,931
the reason I do that is again I think

3350
02:30:56,781 --> 02:30:54,450
the national security apparatus would

3351
02:31:01,270 --> 02:30:56,791
have gone back and examined ancient

3352
02:31:04,821 --> 02:31:01,280
legends and texts and lore and so on to

3353
02:31:06,501 --> 02:31:04,831
arrive at the conclusion of a historical

3354
02:31:09,290 --> 02:31:06,511
perspective on these things and they

3355
02:31:12,000 --> 02:31:09,300
would have immediately come across

3356
02:31:15,300 --> 02:31:12,010
that if you read the Tower of Babel

3357
02:31:18,809 --> 02:31:15,310
story in the book of Genesis in Chapter

3358
02:31:22,400 --> 02:31:18,819
11 very carefully you find an

3359
02:31:26,910 --> 02:31:22,410
interesting lack of mention the story

3360
02:31:29,849 --> 02:31:26,920
says and I'm paraphrasing that if the

3361
02:31:32,070 --> 02:31:29,859
humans complete this task they will be

3362
02:31:35,130 --> 02:31:32,080
able to do whatsoever they imagined to

3363
02:31:38,070 --> 02:31:35,140
do and I decided the actual verse so in

3364
02:31:41,460 --> 02:31:38,080
other words God or the gods come down

3365
02:31:44,130 --> 02:31:41,470
here and scramble humanity to prevent

3366
02:31:46,469 --> 02:31:44,140
the project from being completed there

3367
02:31:48,300 --> 02:31:46,479
is a direct intervention and it was an

3368
02:31:52,050 --> 02:31:48,310
intervention because of a perceived

3369
02:31:54,389 --> 02:31:52,060
threat if you look at the Mayan version

3370
02:31:56,190 --> 02:31:54,399
of the story it's very similar if you

3371
02:31:59,580 --> 02:31:56,200
look at plato's version of the story

3372
02:32:01,740 --> 02:31:59,590
it's similar in almost all cases it's

3373
02:32:05,130 --> 02:32:01,750
because there's a perceived threat from

3374
02:32:07,050 --> 02:32:05,140
human technological capability so the

3375
02:32:08,940 --> 02:32:07,060
national security establishment after

3376
02:32:11,760 --> 02:32:08,950
world war ii i think is also going to

3377
02:32:13,590 --> 02:32:11,770
conclude that we for whatever reason

3378
02:32:15,840 --> 02:32:13,600
that it has to do with nuclear weapons

3379
02:32:20,040 --> 02:32:15,850
and gateway technologies as we've been

3380
02:32:24,599 --> 02:32:20,050
discussing that we are in a period of

3381
02:32:28,050 --> 02:32:24,609
threat where our independence of action

3382
02:32:30,630 --> 02:32:28,060
could be subject to if the ancient

3383
02:32:33,510 --> 02:32:30,640
records are any indicator potential

3384
02:32:36,360 --> 02:32:33,520
intervention and therefore we have to

3385
02:32:38,309 --> 02:32:36,370
play our cards extremely carefully we've

3386
02:32:40,410 --> 02:32:38,319
got to create the technologies to

3387
02:32:42,120 --> 02:32:40,420
emulate their performance and achieve

3388
02:32:45,599 --> 02:32:42,130
some sort of parity number one number

3389
02:32:49,070 --> 02:32:45,609
two in the meantime until we do we have

3390
02:32:51,510 --> 02:32:49,080
to play a very delicate game of

3391
02:32:53,840 --> 02:32:51,520
psychological operations against whoever

3392
02:32:58,710 --> 02:32:53,850
these people are if they are people and

3393
02:33:01,620 --> 02:32:58,720
we have to creatively use our own

3394
02:33:04,200 --> 02:33:01,630
hostile responses to indicate that we

3395
02:33:06,660 --> 02:33:04,210
are not to be trifled with now in that

3396
02:33:10,380 --> 02:33:06,670
respect I want to point out something

3397
02:33:12,719 --> 02:33:10,390
that many people have laughed at and

3398
02:33:15,870 --> 02:33:12,729
that's Colonel Corsos statement in the

3399
02:33:18,210 --> 02:33:15,880
day after Roswell that the real reason

3400
02:33:20,450 --> 02:33:18,220
for the arms build-up between the United

3401
02:33:22,850 --> 02:33:20,460
States and the Soviet Union

3402
02:33:24,830 --> 02:33:22,860
which at the time you recall had both

3403
02:33:29,270 --> 02:33:24,840
had the capability of destroying the

3404
02:33:31,370 --> 02:33:29,280
planets and they still do and they still

3405
02:33:35,900 --> 02:33:31,380
do but not quite as bad as it was back

3406
02:33:40,810 --> 02:33:35,910
in the bad old days the Cold War but the

3407
02:33:43,670 --> 02:33:40,820
real reason was to send the signal that

3408
02:33:46,880 --> 02:33:43,680
attempting to occupy this planet would

3409
02:33:50,120 --> 02:33:46,890
be an impossibility simply because of

3410
02:33:53,320 --> 02:33:50,130
the sheer quantity of nuclear and German

3411
02:33:56,810 --> 02:33:53,330
nuclear weapons interesting observation

3412
02:34:00,140 --> 02:33:56,820
it was his observation now the

3413
02:34:03,320 --> 02:34:00,150
implication of his observation is once

3414
02:34:05,110 --> 02:34:03,330
we achieve other technologies then the

3415
02:34:07,910 --> 02:34:05,120
nuclear weapon won't be so necessary

3416
02:34:10,130 --> 02:34:07,920
well look what we have now we have

3417
02:34:13,160 --> 02:34:10,140
weather modification in other words we

3418
02:34:17,540 --> 02:34:13,170
have the capability of manipulating

3419
02:34:19,790 --> 02:34:17,550
systems on a planetary scale and if you

3420
02:34:20,120 --> 02:34:19,800
look at things like HAARP here's the bad

3421
02:34:23,030 --> 02:34:20,130
news

3422
02:34:25,810 --> 02:34:23,040
these these ionospheric heaters I

3423
02:34:28,670 --> 02:34:25,820
strongly suspect and again this is

3424
02:34:32,180 --> 02:34:28,680
speculation on my part but I strongly

3425
02:34:35,240 --> 02:34:32,190
suspect that these things also have the

3426
02:34:39,290 --> 02:34:35,250
capability of inducing resonance effects

3427
02:34:41,870 --> 02:34:39,300
in the Sun alright and manipulating

3428
02:34:44,600 --> 02:34:41,880
things on a stellar escape now that's

3429
02:34:46,940 --> 02:34:44,610
very important because if you're playing

3430
02:34:48,500 --> 02:34:46,950
a game of brinkmanship or gunboat

3431
02:34:50,840 --> 02:34:48,510
diplomacy or whatever you wish to call

3432
02:34:54,410 --> 02:34:50,850
it with whoever it is it's flying these

3433
02:34:56,960 --> 02:34:54,420
things out there the the demonstration

3434
02:34:59,450 --> 02:34:56,970
of capabilities like that are very very

3435
02:35:01,340 --> 02:34:59,460
important and they will also mean if

3436
02:35:04,250 --> 02:35:01,350
you've got those kind of capabilities

3437
02:35:06,200 --> 02:35:04,260
that you're going to put less stress on

3438
02:35:08,719 --> 02:35:06,210
the development of your thermo nuclear

3439
02:35:12,110 --> 02:35:08,729
strategic strike capability which is

3440
02:35:13,940 --> 02:35:12,120
exactly what we've seen happen I think

3441
02:35:16,850 --> 02:35:13,950
that when the United States and the

3442
02:35:19,310 --> 02:35:16,860
Soviet Union began the process of

3443
02:35:21,890 --> 02:35:19,320
reducing their thermo nuclear arsenals

3444
02:35:24,650 --> 02:35:21,900
as they did and as they've done I think

3445
02:35:27,400 --> 02:35:24,660
it's because they have something better

3446
02:35:31,340 --> 02:35:27,410
in the wings the thing not talking about

3447
02:35:34,870 --> 02:35:31,350
in fact I just blogged about this

3448
02:35:36,610 --> 02:35:34,880
subject a few weeks ago on my website

3449
02:35:39,820 --> 02:35:36,620
the Russians have announced that they

3450
02:35:41,410 --> 02:35:39,830
have some sort of microwave weapon that

3451
02:35:43,960 --> 02:35:41,420
they've been developing for productor

3452
02:35:46,230 --> 02:35:43,970
for for propulsion capability but this

3453
02:35:49,750 --> 02:35:46,240
thing also has the capability of

3454
02:35:51,550 --> 02:35:49,760
basically disintegrating things at a few

3455
02:35:54,370 --> 02:35:51,560
kilometers distance we'll stop and think

3456
02:35:56,469 --> 02:35:54,380
about that because what that is that's

3457
02:35:58,269 --> 02:35:56,479
the old microwave solar time effect that

3458
02:36:00,820 --> 02:35:58,279
was being investigated as a propulsion

3459
02:36:02,559 --> 02:36:00,830
system by the United States and the

3460
02:36:06,550 --> 02:36:02,569
Soviet Union incidentally back in the

3461
02:36:09,940 --> 02:36:06,560
1950s and it's also interesting that it

3462
02:36:11,830 --> 02:36:09,950
is a weaponize Abul capability so again

3463
02:36:14,650 --> 02:36:11,840
we're back to square one they've had

3464
02:36:17,740 --> 02:36:14,660
this stuff they've had the basic physics

3465
02:36:19,510 --> 02:36:17,750
principles since the 1950s and they've

3466
02:36:21,429 --> 02:36:19,520
been investigating women the Russians

3467
02:36:25,500 --> 02:36:21,439
just recently came out and said oh yeah

3468
02:36:29,559 --> 02:36:25,510
hey by the way we've got this stuff too

3469
02:36:32,530 --> 02:36:29,569
just in case you're interested and you

3470
02:36:36,490 --> 02:36:32,540
know the Chinese are fairly close behind

3471
02:36:38,139 --> 02:36:36,500
if the Chinese the Germans the

3472
02:36:43,030 --> 02:36:38,149
Brazilians the Japanese you know

3473
02:36:45,130 --> 02:36:43,040
basically the old trade power game wow

3474
02:36:49,120 --> 02:36:45,140
this has been fascinating and again I do

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3476
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one that I've gotten just love them to

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3478
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it's just incredible reference material

3479
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and it's really refreshing again to be

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able to do your own research based on

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how carefully you source your material

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and I I kind of use that that myself in

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my new book stalking you heard which is

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tons of references sources in and I

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really lay out where people can go to

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find out more about a particular subject

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that you just can't fully cover because

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you do you'll cover such an amazing

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amount of ground in your books

3490
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you can't digress sometimes so it's a

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great opportunity for you folks out

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there in the listening audience to get

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yourselves up to speed and do some real

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good research on the shoulders of a real

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giant here and I do mean that Joseph

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you're you know thank you research is

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just is just top-notch right and I do

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recommend all your all your books on

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various subjects because it's all tied

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in and it's interesting your books

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02:37:52,059 --> 02:37:49,910
so varied but they're all they all tie

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back in to what we've been talking about

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today even your book caught the cosmic

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war which is one of my favorite books

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looking at antiquity Joseph Farrell tell

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our listeners where we can find more of

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02:38:36,490 --> 02:38:05,290
what you do you can go on my website

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www.ihaveaspergers.webs.com the book

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stalking the herd is now available for

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shipment support your your company as

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soon as you can

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dr. Joseph Farrell thank you for joining

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us this week on the power cast thanks

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the para cast featuring gene Steinberg

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and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted

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presentation of making the impossible